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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (5 children)

These are the subtle types of errors that are much more likely to cause problems than when it tells someone to put glue in their pizza.

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[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sadly there's really no other search engine with a database as big as Google. We goofed by heavily relying on Google.

[–] cman6@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Not yet! But you can make a difference to that... https://yacy.net/

[–] enleeten@discuss.online 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Kagi is pretty awesome. I never directly use Google search on any of my devices anymore, been on Kagi for going on a year.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Interesting.. sadly paid service.

I use perplexity, I just have to get into the habit of not going straight to google for my searches.

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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

And this technology is what our executive overlords want to replace human workers with, just so they can raise their own compensation and pay the remaining workers even less

[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the kind of shit that makes Idiocracy the most weirdly prophetic movie I’ve ever seen.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ignoring the blatant eugenics of the very first scene, I'd rather live in the idiocracy world because at least the president with all of his machismo and grandstanding was still humble enough to put the smartest guy in the room in charge of actually getting plants to grow.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

My take away from that was the poorly educated had more kids.

[–] loie@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So much this. The whole point is to annihilate entire sectors of decent paying jobs. That's why "AI" is garnering all this investment. Exactly like Theranos. Doesn't matter if their product worked, or made any goddamned sense at all really. Just the very idea of nuking shitloads of salaries is enough to get the investor class to dump billions on the slightest chance of success.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly like Theranos

Is it though? This one is an idea that can literally destroy the economic system. Seems different to ignore that detail.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Current gen AI can't come close to destroying the economy. It's the most overhyped technology I've ever seen in my life.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

So uhh... why aren't companies suing the shit out of Google?

[–] suction@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter if it's "Google AI" or Shat GPT or Foopsitart or whatever cute name they hide their LLMs behind; it's just glorified autocomplete and therefore making shit up is a feature, not a bug.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

Making shit up IS a feature of LLMs. It's crazy to use it as search engine. Now they'll try to stop it from hallucinating to make it a better search engine and kill the one thing it's good at ...

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Chatgpt was in much higher quality a year ago than it is now.

It could be very accurate. Now it's hallucinating the whole time.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking the same thing. LLMs have suddenly got much worse. They've lost the plot lmao

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's because of the concerted effort to sabotage LLMs by poisoning their data.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure thats definitely true.. my sense is that the AI money/arms race has made them push out new/more as fast as possible so they can be the first and get literally billions of investment capitol

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Maybe. I'm sure there's more than one reason. But the negativity people have for AI is really toxic.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

is it?

nearly everyone I speak to about it (other than one friend I have who's pretty far on the spectrum) concur that no one asked for this. few people want any of it, its consuming vast amounts of energy, is being shoehorned into programs like skype and adobe reader where no one wants it, is very, very soon to become manditory in OS's like windows, iOS and Android while it threatens election integrity already (mosdt notibly India) and is being used to harass individuals with deepfake porn etc.

the ethics board at openAI got essentially got dispelled and replaced by people interested only in the fastest expansion and rollout possible to beat the competition and maximize their capitol gains..

..also AI "art", which is essentially taking everything a human has ever made, shredding it into confetti and reconsstructing it in the shape of something resembling the prompt is starting to flood Image search with its grotesque human-mimicing outputs like things with melting, split pupils and 7 fingers..

you're saying people should be positive about all this?

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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wish we could really press the main point here: Google is willfully foisting their LLM on the public, and presenting it as a useful tool. It is not, which makes them guilty of neglicence and fraud.

Pichai needs to end up in jail and Google broken up into at least ten companies.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Maybe they actually hate the idea of LLMs and are trying to sour the public's opinion on it to kill it.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Remember when Google used to give good search results?

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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

keep poisoning AI until it's useless to everyone.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (9 children)
[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Because he wants to stop it from helping impoverished people live better lives and all the other advantages simply because it didn't exist when.he was young and change scares him

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit your assumption says a lot about you. How do you think AI is going to "help impoverished people live better lives" exactly?

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[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Because they will only be used my corporations to replace workers, furthering class divide, ultimately leading to a collapse in countries and economies. Jobs will be taken, and there will be no resources for the jobless. The future is darker than bleak should LLMs and AI be allowed to be used indeterminately by corporations.

[–] JamesFire@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We should use them to replace workers, letting everyone work less and have more time to do what they want.

We shouldn't let corporations use them to replace workers, because workers won't see any of the benefits.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

that won't happen. technological advancement doesn't allow you to work less, it allowa you to work less for the same output. so you work the same hours but the expected output changes, and your productivity goes up while your wages stay the same.

[–] JamesFire@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

technological advancement doesn’t allow you to work less,

It literally has (When forced by unions). How do you think we got the 40-hr workweek?

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How do you think we got the 40hr work week?

[–] JamesFire@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unions fought for it after seeing the obvious effects of better technology reducing the need for work hours.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Stop after your first 4 words and you'd be correct but all your other words are just your imagination and you trying to rationalize what you've already said.

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[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That wasn't technology. It was the literal spilling of blood of workers and organizers fighting and dying for those rights.

[–] JamesFire@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And you think they just did it because?

They obviously thought they deserved it, because... technology reduced the need for work hours, perhaps?

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] JamesFire@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In response to better technology that reduced the need for work hours.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

no, in response to human beings needing rest. the need for work hours was reduced drastically lowered since, but nothing changed. corporations don't care, they just want you to work until you die, no matter how much you contribute none of them is gonna say "you know what, that's enough, maybe you should work less". wage theft keeps getting worse.

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean LLMs are not to get exact information. Do people ever read on the stuff they use?

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Theoretically, what would the utility of AI summaries in Google Search if not getting exact information?

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[–] qx128@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Are AI products released by a company liable for slander? 🤷🏻

I predict we will find out in the next few years.

[–] micka190@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We had a case in Canada where Air Canada was forced to give a customer a refund after its AI told him he was eligible for one, because the judge stated that Air Canada was responsible for what their AI said.

So, maybe?

I've seen some legal experts talk about how Google basically got away from misinformation lawsuits because they weren't creating misinformation, they were giving you search results that contained misinformation, but that wasn't their fault and they were making an effort to combat those kinds of search results. They were talking about how the outcome of those lawsuits might be different if Google's AI is the one creating the misinformation, since that's on them.

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