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OT, that's a very nice UN and instance name you have!
Thank you! I started the server as a random project right after I left Reddit and shredded all of my posts. I’m pretty sure I’m the only active user but that’s okay by me. It’s a little money out of my pocket to give both myself and others refuge from social media and all of the enshitification.
Here's the donations links from on the sidebar mateys. The server is currently is not covering its hosting costs ;)
EDIT: Removed since they're in the OP now
Added to the post .
What are the current hosting costs? Every cent counts, but how much do y'all need?
The ko-fi page has that info i think.
Being defederated by lemmyworld is a badge of honor. Keep up the good work!
Nah, I disagree. They are running a large community in the middle of Europe, in plain view and being personally known, and as such, liable. Adhering to applicable laws and regulations is the sensible thing to do, plain and simple.
That makes it even worse. Imagine putting in all this effort and taking all this supposed risk to create a new social media platform free of the pitfalls that come with a for profit site like reddit only to slowly adopt the exact same corporate friendly code of conduct while purposefully curating a community of annoying shitheads who are nearly indistinguishable from the horde of cretins on reddit.
If making a new reddit is legitimately the best they can do, then they should absolutely just scuttle the entire project.
Honestly even Reddit is better. Reddit still has a r/piracy
Feels like .world is defedding from errybody. Eventually theyre gonna be like aol (or some other more recent, relevant walled garden).
Do y'all think this "cleaning up" has to do with their META threads integration?
Do y'all think this "cleaning up" has to do with their META threads integration?
You mean as opposed to their stated reason: DMCA?
I'm talking about the broader implications of meta integration being the possible driving force behind the multiple defederations, not specifically this, the latest, which would be included as part of a larger "cleanup".
Awesome username, BTW
I think (as their open communications on the subject have indicated) that they prefer to keep their legal liability profile slim. In the end, no matter how many users you have in your instance, you're still alone in that court room against the monopolies that represent content rights holders.
From what I can tell they (at least the older admins and Ruud) seem to have no love for Meta, but they aren't chicken little about it either. Federated or not, Meta can easily scrape Lemmy data, so if you mean that .world defederated to pretty up their image and make themselves attractive to Meta, I just don't see the point, but also, it seems like a conspiracy theory to me.
There's a piece on TF about a website that closed down years ago, and has been acquitted four times of their "crimes" of linking (as opposed to hosting), and due to a new definition of "communicate" is being sued a fifth time. The sue-happy rights holders have no compunction against going back to destroy anyone they perceive at any time to have infringed "their" works. Look at Reddit, still defending users against identification for doing what? Saying their ISP was lenient about DMCA notices. To protect against that garbage, you have to be careful, and perhaps remove content you agree with to CYA.
Yeah. I have a lot of concerns over how much market share .world has and some of the really questionable things the admins have done (removing protections related to hate speech from their TOS, having a policy of wiping all comments of a user and accusing them of pretty heinous shit, etc).
But I 100% support this particular action. We run VPNs and use burner emails when we pirate stuff. They don't really have that luxury due to the nature of web hosting. So kudos to the instance owners who are willing to play with fire on our behalf but... I sure wouldn't.
Wait, they are federating with Threads? I thought everyone, even single-user instances blocked them. WTF?
Yeah, this is why users should get to decide which instances they get to see.
Let's be our own moderators instead of relying on useful idiots to do it for us.
Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?
I think bad actors have infiltrated their admin team and are pushing their own agenda.
Lots of useful idiots want to ban discussion of piracy because it makes them realize how they're getting ripped off.
Nobody wants to acknowledge how they're being taken for a ride, especially useful idiots.
Care to ELI5 for us casuals who did not catch and are missing the obvious?
AFAIK Lemmy.world (the largest Lemmy instance) was issued a takedown request for something unrelated, and conducted a review of the piracy communities following that.
Unfortunately they decided to remove/unfed a few piracy communities as a result, such as this one on dbzer0.
So while we are still all federated, lemmy.world users can no longer see or interact with the !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com community ☹️
So we can still things from them but they can’t see things from us?
I suppose that’s why people make at least two accounts.
I think they've just defederated the community, so they can see users commenting from dbzer0 but can't access !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com themselves.
But generally yes, federation is two way. It's possible for one side to defederate while the other side to be federated, in which case users on one side could post comments but they'd only be visible to instances that are federated with them. Eg, if lemmy.world was not federated with dbzer0 at all, but it was still federated with lemmy.ml, then dbzer0 comments in lemmy.world would show up for dbzer0 and lemmy.ml users but not for lemmy.world.
db0 is a personal hero of mine I have been a follower since his OCTGN creations.
As someone who just started with this community, I'll admit that I'm a little confused by what happened. Appreciate everyone who puts in time here though!
Don't worry about it, just steer clear of lemmy.world and you'll be fine
One of the largest instances, lemmy.world, is no longer receiving posts from this community. They're worried about legal troubles I think?