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I decided to share this here too since sailors don't seem to visit !opensignups@lemmy.ml and the murky waters of the orange sea should be seldom visited anymore.

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Links to more info about private trackers here:

for the braveif you dare a journey that might lead you to the Davy Jones’ locker, the once locked down waters of r/OpenSignups and a newcomer r/trackersignups are places for the brave to check out

Taken from the orange seas wiki which we don't seem to have here?

► What is a private tracker?

Private trackers are loosely defined as private torrent sites where a membership is required in order to download their torrents. An accurate description would separate private trackers into 2 parts: the tracker itself and the website that accompanies it. A torrent tracker is a server that tracks peers in a torrent swarm and assigns/connects peers to each other based on its own internal criteria. The tracker then reports to the website which, on top of providing a download link to the torrent file, will display all relevant info for that torrent, including peer/seed counts and optionally a peer list if the website operator chooses to include it.

Unlike public trackers, these are not a free-for-all buffet. You need to contribute back (by uploading) a certain amount proportional to the amount you have "taken" from the tracker. This arrangement can vary a lot from tracker to tracker. Private trackers track this balance of contribution by a "ratio", which is simply a ratio of uploaded data, divided by your downloaded data. If you downloaded a total of 2GB and uploaded a total of 4GB, that would make your ratio a 2.0. Trackers will sometimes have different methods of maintaining an acceptable ratio, either by offering bonuses the longer you keep your torrents seeding, to providing "half-leech" or "freeleech" content. Freelech content is the most commonly used method, which means the torrent that is marked as freeleech is free to download, meaning it does not count against your Download stats, giving you an opportunity to gain upload from it without sacrificing any "download buffer". Some torrent trackers are "ratioless", meaning they don't require you to maintain any sort of ratio in order to keep using the site, they just require a minimum seed-time on all downloaded torrents (which is usually also a requirement on ratio pure trackers, but typically the seed-time isn't as lengthy as on ratioless trackers).

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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 102 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That has to be weirdest rule I've ever seen in a private tracker. Do they think they're fooling anyone?

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 132 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"There are no seeding rules...if you fall below a 0.5 ratio, your downloads will be disabled."

That there sounds like a seeding rule.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Maybe what they meant was that there isn't a rule about needing to seed individual torrents to a certain point? Seeing how they also mention "maintain a global", which is pretty normal for lots of private trackers. But that is my guess, even though it still counts as a "seeding rule."

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

What they mean is that there are no hit and run rules. Other private trackers tend to expect you to side a certain amount of time during a given time frame.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's very weird indeed. Seems to be a new tracker, most uploads are recent. Don't know what to make of it.

[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely new, look at how close the total users and active users are. Seems pretty shady.

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Honey here! Getcha honey!

Definitely no honey pots here, just honey!

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Well if I bought then it's mine and I can do whatever I want with it. So that's inside "legal rights", right? Right?

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

It's supposed to be a legal safeguard. Strictly speaking you are only downloading torrent files from the actual site so it's not possible to violate this rule.

[–] NotNeo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get that we're pirates around here, but their logo is literally just the DnD logo lol

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Dungeons and dragons?

[–] FracturedPelvis@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is this tracker a known/reputable tracker? What content does it trade in? (movies/series?)

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

It's a general tracker but most of it's content seems to be movies and tv at the moment. It's a new tracker but so far it's off to a good start.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We do have a wiki. Wiki.dbzer0.com

[–] mark7869@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

Why not use I2P and qbitorrent? Anonymous torrenting.

[–] Kanzar@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At least they're old enough to exist on Jackett...?

[–] nimmo@lem.nimmog.uk 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about that, as I'm getting an error whenever I try to hook jacket up to the account I just created.

I'll post an issue to the jacket issue log when I get home though after trying again I case there's a delay in creating an account and the passkey becoming usable.

[–] Kanzar@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh it seemed to work ok for me when I tried. Good luck!

[–] nimmo@lem.nimmog.uk 1 points 10 months ago

Interesting, I'll try again from my desktop when I get back home again. I guess it's possible that it's my phone that's the problem.

[–] Allan8795@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Had joined this a while ago, got few downloads while the global freeleech is going on. My only concern with these new trackers is content retention is dismal due to lenient seeding rules. Long term seeding should be made a priority for the tracker to thrive and succeed.

[–] spiritedpause@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Now that DHT makes trackers unnecessary in order to find torrents, what’s the point of private trackers other than gatekeeping?

[–] hottari@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago

Choice. You'll find some torrents you fancy on public trackers with 2 seeders uploading at 15kBs. Also no more New_Spiderman_CAM_1XBet.avi torrents.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

DHT is asked to be disabled in most private trackers. Also the retention is quite good, you can find obscure stuff easily and you can request if you don't find something.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m confused by this but have minimal knowledge. I have a lot of trouble with my radarr/sonarr downloading files is there a way I can use DHT to help?

[–] spiritedpause@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Which search indexers are you using in radarr/sonarr?

DHT allows discovery of torrents by pinging the IP addresses from an existing torrent, and asking them what other files they’re sharing. It then pings the other IP addresses seeding those files, and asks them what they’re sharing, and so on.

You can either use a torrent search index site (many of them use DHT to create their database) or you can self host your own DHT crawler and have your own personal torrent search index, but the downside is it uses a decent amount of space to store the index.

BitMagnet is the best self hosted DHT indexer if you’re interested: https://github.com/bitmagnet-io/bitmagnet