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Originally, the protest was planned to be 48 hours. However, after a shambolic AMA held by Reddit's CEO, it has become clear to us that Reddit doesn't intend to act in good faith. When the CEO is willing to lie and spread libellous claims about another third-party developer, and then try double down by vilifying them, again, in an AMA, despite being proven as a liar by the developer through audio recordings, that's when we knew what we were up against. Therefore, the subreddit will be privatised until such time as a reasonable resolution is proposed.

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[–] Yahhas@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is great! But the problem is they're probably just going to replace the admins/mods w/e they're called that control the subreddit and just open it up again...

[–] flamingarms@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There was some mods discussing this on Tildes, and the mods seemed to think that replacing them wouldn't be as easy as people make it out to be. Mods apparently have a wealth of institutional knowledge that is required due to the lackluster default mod suite, and apparently the admins rely on them to come up with their own solutions to issues. Replacing the mods sounds like it will reduce the quality of the content but also will be a big headache for any new mods to jump in. Reddit may not give a shit and they may think it won't significantly affect investor interest, but I wonder if us regular users will notice a difference. Hell, there's already been a difference over the past 10 years.

[–] Raphael@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think reddit cares about that?

The title says /r/iPhone has almost 4 million subscribers, they'll find replacement mods in the blink of an eye.

But it will still hurt them, immensely. All these people on lemmy are proof of that, moderation quality on reddit will also go down and the site's reputation will be permanently tarnished.

Millionaires are not qualified to run social media websites.

[–] flamingarms@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Right, that's what I'm saying - I'm curious if we'll notice a quality drop in content, if the majority of users who stay will notice or care, and how that will affect Reddit's bottom line and investor opportunities.

[–] lolzacksnyderfans@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's mostly just creative automod rules, it's not that big a deal and plenty of users would come up with solutions in short order.

[–] Wigglet@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think thats naive..they will be replaced it just might not be well.

Mods if you see this, nuke the sub on the way out. Remove all older posts if you can

[–] flamingarms@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Right, that's what I'm saying - replacement may be easy, but those mods were suggesting a hit to quality. Something tells me Reddit is ready for widespread nuking and has a backup solution to handle that, but it would be lovely to see it all go down. Can't wait to see what Reddit looks like after all these Subreddits finish going dark.

[–] androidul@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit CEO and his other gangsters don't even care ... it's nice though that everyone's protesting on Reddit, I love that! Sad truth is just that they don't really care, least everyone can do is leave the platform but that's not going to happen. Also, I truly don't understand why they don't move here?

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I rather like it here tbh. It has more of that old school forum-y feel to it and while the concept of the fediverse was strange and confusing, just a couple days of wandering around and clicking the things made me a lot more comfortable. I don’t foresee going back to Reddit, personally.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The learning curve is definitely steeper here, which will be a barrier to a lot of the most casual users.

[–] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

This is the inevitable problem that pushed me to Lemmy. Even if we win this battle over 3rd party apps, we'll lose the war because Reddit Admins hold all the cards.

[–] PeaPanties@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The only way Reddit can change if majority/ all of the unpaid mods completely stop moderating.

This will be bigger than less quality contents as without moderation Reddit will be bigger cesspool than it is now.

And once that happens, common users will stop using Reddit and thus slowly killing it like Tumblr or Digg.

[–] olivebuffalo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

wish more would go out indefinitely, this is great

[–] VioletteRei@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a Apple community here to replace it?

[–] Ediacarium@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zinklog@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully not every subreddit tries to move to lemmy.ml only

[–] bowreality@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

One way to help out is open a couple of your fav subs if they don’t exist yet! I have done 2 so far and I hope we can also have a decentralized spread of subs here.

[–] CheshireSnake@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We really have to spread the word that lemmy.ml is not the only intance and size isn't a gauge for how active an instance is. I'm worried lemmy.ml will not be able to handle that many users who may be coming, and a high concentration of comms there would mean a lot would suffer if lemmy.ml crashes...

[–] SickIcarus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That’s a killer feature that Lemmy absolutely needs: the ability to migrate. Migrate accounts, and migrate communities. That would go a long way to distributing load, and providing high availability.

[–] Fingerblaster007@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I’m on the mlem app and when I open it just shows the lemmy.ml. Is there something else I should be adding in there?

[–] CheshireSnake@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't used mlem. I'm on Android and we have Jerboa. Hopefully an mlem user can answer your question.

On Jerboa we just have to input which instance we want to log into.

[–] jason@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Won’t matter. Based on recent behavior I’d expect any reasonably large sub to be forcibly reopened by the admins after a couple days. If the current mods won’t cooperate then they’ll be replaced by the hordes who want to go on a power-trip.

[–] rlhe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This scenario has happened before, has it not? Why would anyone expect that Reddit will respond differently this time and walk back their plans?

[–] Isotretinoin@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That doesn't mean though that we ,as a community ,shouldn't try and change them .

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wonder how long it takes until admins take over the communities

[–] other_world@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a feeling all of the default subs will be taken over pretty quickly. The small subs will be forgotten about.

[–] Nankeru@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what I expect to happen as well. Nothing stops them from kicking out the current mods / admins, replacing them with new mods willing to take over and continue as before (or even use AI moderation tools to minimize the efforts).

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who though? Who wants to mod a community that big, for a company that will throw mods under the bus, for a company that is burning bridges with developers instead of finding reasonable compensation, for a company that that is so bad at supporting mods mods have to rely on third parties to support (which they are also burning bridges with), for a company that is "not profitable", for a company that is laying people off, not hiring.

AI moderation? No way they will "meet increasing regulatory compliance" with that.

What a fucking shitshow. There are just no words for how big of a hole Reddit has dug itself.

[–] PunsNRoses@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think the subs should go private, but rather they should just get straight-up abandoned. The admins will have a much harder time dealing with all the unmoderated content that will inevitably show up, and it will look way worse to advertisers.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

theres even more precedent of them taking over unmoderated subs

[–] probodyne@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I think anarchychess is planning exactly that. They're private today (Sunday) and going unmoderated on Monday.

[–] rlhe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Hm, I like this idea -- the content is what values Reddit.

[–] mustyOrange@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Damn it's all crashing down isn't it. I honestly see most of the subs enthusiastic toward the blackout going this way