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[–] null_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Bethesda really has no incentive to actually make TES6 so long as they have healthy subscribers for TES Online, I’m not surprised at all the game has likely been put on ice until the next generation.

Fortunately Starfield looks amazing and will hopefully fill that void for most of us who want a single player experience.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't buy this. TES Online and actual TES games are so fundamentally different that they do not have the same audience. There are probably millions of people who will buy TES6 but have no interest in playing an MMORPG.

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[–] lostlemon@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When they first dropped the trailer, my coworker said it would be out within the year because “why would they show it if it wasn’t ready?”. I bet him $100 if it released by next summer, and $20 for me every year it didn’t release. I don’t work with him anymore and it wasn’t a fair bet anyway, but I always think fondly of that when TES6 release comes up

[–] Wilshire@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Just send it to collections.

[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was such a weird thing to do, considering that Starfield isnt even out yet.

My guess it that TES6 won't be out for a good 6-7 years more.

[–] Elrundir@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Considering that for years Bethesda couldn't fart without their fans asking "Where is ES6? Just let us know ES6 exists!", I'm not too surprised. They rushed a teaser just to shut people up, but in the process set themselves up for years more of "Show us more ES6!"

Peak Bethesda for me was announcing Fallout 4 six months before release date. None of this 10+ years to build up hype that the game can't live up to.

[–] CliodhnaBaskerville@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really that surprising that we haven't gotten much (if anything) new since. It was pretty clear that the trailer was basically just a statement of "we plan on this being a thing that exists at some point". IIRC, we knew that it was extremely early in development and that Starfield would come first.

As a side note: I remember people theorising that it would be subtitled Redfall, since Bethesda had trademarked the name around the same time.

[–] cambionn@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a side note: I remember people theorising that it would be subtitled Redfall, since Bethesda had trademarked the name around the same time.

I also remember Todd later saying in an interview, after lot's of speculation, that they had no idea yet for the game, basically debunking any speculation as just that.

I also thought the rumor was on trademarking "The Elder Scrolls: Redguard" or something along those lines, which is easily explained as that's the name of an old spin-off from 1998 that they likely had to settle some stuff for. Timing spe ifically could be chance, or them figuring the announcement would bring more attention to the franchise. Besides, all game titles have been prime location. I think the word "Redfall" was a different rumour than the trademark one.

An old Twitter post suggested Highrock which also matched the trailers look. However, the next ESO chapter became Highrock and they never went back in a main game before, obviously ignoring Arena (Daggerfall was in that High Rock and Hammerfell) So it may have just been about that. An apperantly leaked internal note spoke of project Greenwood, possibly setting it in Valenwood (second most rumoured place) but that is alleged.

But then, it's late night and it's been quite a while since I looked into it. So I might renember it wrong as well.

In the end, Bethesda still has us talking and speculating, and has me writing 4 paragraphs, with just releasing one shitty 5 year old trailer. And that while, as I said at the start, pretty all rumours where debunked as "we don't know yet". Damn they got me. They still got me...

[–] SpyingEnvelope@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's okay. We'll get Skyrim for the PS6.

[–] Quentinp@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For all the complaints over the years (from myself included), there are very few options for games like Elder Scrolls main games.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

These kinds of games are extremly difficult to build. Skyrim still does things I haven't seen any game other than Fallout 4 do since.

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[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would like to have it explained to me by someone au fait with GameDev as to what's stopping a smaller studio going after something with the scope of Morrowind or Oblivion.

Bethesda are so blessed to have their own unique niche that's so stupidly popular.

[–] Quentinp@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just piles and piles and piles of work. Imagine all the trees, grass, rocks, terrain, buildings, props - and then character and creature models, animations, sounds, writing it goes on and on!

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

And the simulation complexity, which leads to an endless sea of bugs. Imitators typically just leave a lot of this out. But Bethesda knows that when the player dumps 500 wheels of cheese in their house in Whiterun, they better still be there and fully physics-enabled when they come back 20 hours later.

[–] Jeef@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When it actually releases I'm sure there will be tons of articles and news that it was rushed and is unfinished

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

Tbf that's because it'll be rushed and unfinished.

[–] Bretzel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was just an announcement. It is quite normal for huge AAA games to take more than 5 years to develop. Bethesda was and probably is not in full time production for TES 6. But sure time flies very fast and feel old now...

[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's be honest here, it's not even in full production yet, not until Bethesda releases Starfield.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Gotta sympathize with people who were watching the Elder Scrolls Online trailer during the direct, thinking it might have been ESVI.

[–] NekomimiNebula@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

That TES Online trailer trolled me so hard when I watched the showcase, I thought it was Elder Scrolls 6 and I just forgot that game existed.

[–] ashen@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Five years, eh? Maybe I’ll make some room and re-install/re-mod Skyrim at some point in the summer. Haven’t touched it in, like, two years, but I’ve been kinda missing it. Or maybe I could try ESO again.

[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems on brand for elder scrolls

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[–] Grenfur@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Honestly, the amount of time it takes AAA titles like this to launch is crazy. Buuut if that's the price we pay for getting a finished, somewhat bug free experience, then so be it. I'd rather that that crunch leading to burnout and a product that gets rushed out to appease shareholders (stares in 2077).

[–] cambionn@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Expecting a somewhat bug free experience from Bethesda... also, while games take long nowadays, 12 years isn't a normal amount. Nor is announcing 5 years prior then never speaking of it again... Pretty sure we're past the "modern games take a lot of time to develop" stage by now.

[–] icesentry@lemmyrs.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I highly doubt they've been working on it since Skyrim.

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[–] Cheshire@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would agree, if that's actually what's happening.

However, looking at how the gaming industry does things… I think it's more likely that it takes so long because the game has either been put on ice or they have a completely understaffed team working on it slowing, development to a crawl. And then, once the company suddenly decides they want to release it, they're going to force crunch time, anyway.

I'd be very happy if my suspicions turn out wrong, but…

[–] Grenfur@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah... I'm trying to remain somewhat optimistic but in all likelihood you're right.

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[–] ghashul@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Talk about jumping the gun with that announcement. I'll honestly be a bit surprised if we see the game this decade.

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[–] Pliny@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

And starfield hasn’t even released yet cry at this rate the trailer will be as old as skyrim was at the time of the announcement before we get a release

[–] CDN@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

We're probably going to see Skyblivion and Skywind release before TES6...

[–] bootyberrypancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe by the time my son is old enough to play with me, lol

[–] carlyman@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was an announcement trailer? I tune all of it out until there's a release date, I didn't know a single thing about starfield until today. Looks rad, hopefully it delivers.

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[–] hotwarioinyourarea@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Something, something Metroid Prime 4 :(

[–] bcbane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So glad that other developers like Obsidian have stepped in to filled the Elder Scrolls and Fallout shaped holes in my chest

[–] thedeserter@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh man. That just feels like yesterday. Still haven’t found any game that’s close to Skyrim. Only game I can think of that similar yet different in its own unique way that I absolutely love is Dragons Dogma. Can’t wait for Capcom to show more of DD2 on Monday!!

[–] KonQuesting@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought Kingdom Come: Deliverance came pretty close to delivering that "Bethesda-style" immersive RPG experience.

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