Liking it a bunch! Chief complaint is how sometimes posting is instantaneous and sometimes it's a 45 second lag. Same with subscribing to communities. Seems to be the various *.ml
communities.
Asklemmy
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
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- Lemmyverse: community search
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- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
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I definitely do agree with the old school vibes, I wasn't really born in that era of the internet, but it really is giving me those vibes.
Overall though, I'm finding it pretty intuitive. Certainly better than other social medias. I've tried tumblr and Twitter, just can't get the hang of them yknow?
I definitely prefer reddits app ui though. But I might just be so used to it anything else just feels weird.
not great. reaching my feed or finding communities requires multiple clicks, like why is the local community selection the default in the community tab, it's just stupid. collapsing comments requires more mouse movement and clicking in a different location every comment because of name length, very dumb. communities are too small and not reliable news aggregators yet, not sure why we couldnt just have subreddits move their culture over and agree of a server, or at least set up bots with RSS feeds from news sites or popular stuff in the mean time. lacks customizability for visuals and usage in general. i'd like to have it autocollapse or autohide posts i've already seen, but now i just see the same threads from 2 days ago. user and community pictures in every post on my frontpage are visually noisy. and more and more issues. the devs definitely need help with creating a reasonable browing experience.
I'm so confused!! Still trying to figure out how to tell jerboa to show me communities that aren't local (and aren't showing in all - I did find memes and other juicy numbers there!)...
I might have made the mistake of trying to pick a server that wasn't struggling under the load of the Reddit refugees, but I still don't think it was a bad idea...
Quite a learning curve though. Some cheat sheets or heaven forbid, starter packs would be snazzy :)
I like that it’s still so small. None of this karma farming just diluting from high quality content and conversations
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I think it does federation better than Mastodon. I think confusion comes from the way ActivityPub decides to do things
It's been very nice both on mobile (Jerboa) & on PC. One thing that has been bothering me as a person that cares about my privacy is what some people are saying on the privacy subreddit on reddit about lemmy.
What have they been saying? Just joined here and would like to be aware.
It’s like eating something extremely good, best way to put it. It’s amazing, everything reddit did wrong doesn’t exist here. It’s like a utopia.
I find the new layout to be confusing, no doubt I'll get used to it, but the hardest part was creating an account. I had no idea what "server" to make my account on, had no idea i had to choose one, thought it was exclusive and couldn't interact with other ones, etc.
Also, the only Lemmy app I saw on Google play was Jerboa for Lemmy. I got that, and I can't really make an account on the app so I had to go to the website. I eventually decided on lemmy.world or something. Overall, the app feels a bit unpolished and the Reddit app seems more welcoming, even though most of the subs are dark now.
One thing I do enjoy is the formating at the bottom. I do like that. And I have high hopes for my future using Lemmy as an alternative to Reddit.
Very confused.. I have a direct link to a Linux community and can't figure out how to open it, or join it, or whatever I'm supposed to do with it in Jerboa. Discovery seems severely limited.
It's not bad, but there are a couple of issues that concern me. One is that communities are fractured - that is, that communities about the same topics exist on different instances and don't connect with each other.
So I'm subscribed to a Books community on one instance, but that doesn't mean I'll see any of the posts on the same topic on other instances unless I subscribe to each of them. The total community of users on Lemmy who are interested in books are split up into small groups on different instances.
That's very limiting.
Of course there's also the issue of the relatively small user base overall. For some purposes a small community may be preferable, but for many others you really need a large user base. Looking for gamers for a face to face tabletop RPG, for example. Without a large user base, the odds of finding people within a reasonable real world distance of you is virtually nil.
I’m new and could be wildly wrong, but it seems like an improved UI could consolidate multiple communities into one “this is my feed” so you can participate in all of them. If one dies, you don’t lose everything.
Yeah, if a community is a "magazine" on here it'd be really nice to collate a number of magazines I'm interested in into a "rack" similar to a multireddit.
@StrictMachine Dunno if it would even be possible, but it would be cool to be able to somehow be able to categorize each instance/magazine with a limited amount of tags - like each book- or literature-related instance could have a "Book" or "Literature" tag that would basically add it to a view of every single instance with the tag in it, so users could look up tags versus looking up specific instances.
So far I like it. It was a little odd signing up because I would find an instance to sign up on and kept scrolling until I found a join button which looped me back to the list of instances. Or I would click on the "you must log in or sign up to comment " message on a thread hoping I could sign up that way and getting sent to the instance lists. I didn't understand to join the instance I needed to hit join from a drop down menu at the top of the page, until I tried looking there since the other options didn't work.
I was doing that through the website on mobile browser. Now that I have an account I am running it through Jerboa. It works well so far, I'm just learning how to find communities to subscribe to, and I'm not sure if when I search from the search options in Jerboa if I'm getting all possible results or just certain ones my instance is somehow connected to? From other comments it sounds like it's the latter and I'm not sure how to get around that.
Other than the learning curve I like it so far. I'm trying to migrate here from Reddit and someone there recommended I try this.
It’s welcoming but confusing. I think there’s two reasons for the latter:
1- Many of us forget how basic Reddit was when we first started using it, and the features we all know and love got added over time and repeatedly refined based on use.
2- Most of us here are because we have been users of incredibly well designed apps crafted by developers with a passion for great UI. If I try using the (new) Reddit site or their default app, I find myself equally confused.
There are still so many changes happening in Lemmy functionality, and as we’ve seen with Mastodon, we will hopefully soon be overwhelmed with great apps.
In the meantime there’s the great community already here and growing. I saw a comment that you can estimate that Reddit has 90% lurkers, 9% commenters, 0.9% posters, and 0.1% “community builders” I think it’s those latter groups who are leading the exodus, which is great news for us and terrible news for whoever ends up owning Reddit.
I think I'm getting the hang of it, I'm just concerned it won't ever get to the point of having as many in depth communities as Reddit, because that's what I like most about Reddit
This is just gonna be a wait and see. Depends on how many people actually make the switch. I just jumped over from Reddit, hoping this catches on!
Couple of nit-picky things that I'd love to see changed.
This comment box. There's nothing to visually divide it from the original post. I got it figured out, but my brain is still resisting it as bad UX.
On the home feed, the group an article comes from is tiny and not obvious. My eye is constantly jumping back and forth from subject to group, group to subject, and it's fatiguing. The subject is only half of what describes the post: what group that subject belongs to is the other.
On the home feed, I have to click Subscribed for my feed. Setting and getting a cookie is at most two lines of code each in vanilla javascript, seems to me that'd be an easy choice to remember.
I don't really know whats going on the whole instance thing confuses me. Whats it's pros? Why use it
Basically 4 things:
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Pick your own admin. I'm sure the kbin admin is awesome (can't be worse than spez, lol) but it's nice to have the option
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Have more control over what your server federates with. Hate interacting with people from a specific server? Move to one that blocks it. Want to interact with people from a blocked instance? Move to one that doesn't block them. Basically more options.
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Don't like the rules on your server? Go to one where you like the rules better.
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Your server is down? That's fine, go to a different one temporarily. You're gonna feel this hard on Monday. Kbin's gonna get crushed by the Reddit hug of death. You might wanna join up to a small Lemmy instance that the horde won't notice if that happens and you still wanna be on.
If you like kbin's admin, federation settings and rules? Then cool! You're missing absolutely nothing from being there (except when it's down). It's nice to have options though.
Secret number 5:
If you know how to host a server, you can host your own Lemmy instance and have all the powa!
@Barbarian So I have a few questions, being new to all this:
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Seemingly I am responding to you when you're on a different instance. I'm on kbin and you're on... sh.itjust.works? Am I understanding this right?
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My kbin account is restricted to just kbin, correct? I cannot use my kbin credentials to log on to another instance like sh.itjust.works.
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How do I make an original comment (this is a bit dumb lol). I see the option to reply to others but no "comment" button for me to comment on my own.
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On kbin specifically... what is a microblog?
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(Last one promise), what is up with the @stuff. I see this post link is kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.mt... I figured the /m is like reddit's /r, but what is the asklemmy@lemmy.mt meaning that this is the magazine/community from lemmy.mt when shown on the kbin /m/ instance version? Not sure if this question makes any sense lol I'm just trying to understand how this all works
There's not a single middle eastern sub, and I doubt there ever will be😞
I'm still a little confused but it's sinking in. The difference between an instance and a "sub", as well as how to join or interact with other "subs" without having to join each individual instance, was the part that was toughest to adapt to. I love it, though. Lemmy is giving me the feeling Reddit did when I first joined it a long, long time ago on my first ever account. It feels organic.
If you could, maybe you can help me figure it out? I'm still very confused...
Enjoyable so far. Feel a bit mystified, but it always takes me ages to figure out how to use new things.
Currently messing around with a browser extension to change the appearance and layout, as I had been finding that a bit of a hurdle.
I miss more intuitive comment collapsing, I used it a lot to skip conversations faster than scrolling through them.
The whole federation thing is not intuitive for new folks. Although watching the lemmy.ml bubble is pretty funny.
I'm interested in reading more about Lenny's privacy and internal workings, ~~but this information is pretty hard to find.~~
I'm concerned about a reliable deletion mechanism Lemmy doesn't care about your privacy
Reddit thread of the same story
I'm also concerned by some posts which I hope are not true:
Lemmy's creator banned from r/socialism for posting neo nazi literature
I'm waiting for apps to pick up the slack. Using Jerboa right now but holding out hope for a Sync switchover 🤞
here's a cohertly sound Answer.
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What happens to the communities/comments/accounts if a Lemmy instance goes down? Do they just disappear?
When a specific Lemmy instance goes down, local users won't access their accounts, communities, or comments until it's restored. The data seems to "disappear" but it's not lost if the instance comes back online. Content copies exist in other federated instances but the original data is tied to the creating instance. BTW, you can backup your toots, comments and anything else on your account on your current instance and start again -
Can people on other instances use your username? Could others tell which is which in comments/posts?
Yes, usernames are instance-specific, so the same username can be used across different instances. However, usernames include the instance, making identification clear. For instance, 'username@instance1' and 'username@instance2' indicate different users. -
How can people afford to host an instance? Aren't there costs to hosting a server?
Indeed, hosting an instance involves costs for server, bandwidth, and potentially maintenance. Individuals hosting instances usually cover these costs themselves or use donations or sponsorships. -
Is there anything stopping corporate interests from hosting a Lemmy? I fear that these corporate instances will be the only ones that can handle large traffic and we're just back to Reddit.
Theoretically, a corporation can host a Lemmy instance. But federated platforms like Lemmy ensure that no single instance controls the entire network. Even with a popular corporate instance, users can choose other instances or create their own, allowing diverse moderation policies and community norms. -
Can an instance go from fully federated to partially without telling its users? How would they know?
An instance changing its federation policy can impact the available content and the reach of users' posts. Although there's no built-in notification system for such changes, a responsible administrator should inform the community, potentially using the instance rules listed in the sidebar or other official communication channels. Users may notice a change if they stop seeing content from certain instances, or if their posts aren't visible on instances they used to federate with. Such a shift in federation policy could also alter the dynamics of moderation and community interaction on the instance. you can see what instances is blocked on /instances. and /modlog shows all moderations.
It works nicley for me but a lot of stuff could need QoL updates. Honestly my biggest concern is that this instance (lemmy.ml) will dominate everything else and host every good Community. From what I heard, the old guard on lemmy.ml has certain political believes that I don't share and I have a lot of negative expierence with this kind of people, back on reddit. A little concerned about powermods on lemmy.ml.
The app I'm using (Jerboa) is a bit lacking, but I'm sure it'll improve. I'm unsure about how accounts work with the servers, can I migrate my account if the server I am using shuts down? Communities are tiny and a lot are missing, but I'm sure those will grow and fill in as more people join.
My understanding is that Lemmy accounts are currently locked to the Lemmy instance you created it on, if the instance goes away you lose your account too.
That would suck :/ Would your posts still last on other instances, or would those be gone too?