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I'm currently playing Diablo IV (and having a blast with it) but finding one small gripe which I only think is going to get worse and probably stop me playing it completely in the long run.

My girlfriend is currently pregnant. This means in 6 months time we'll have a newborn. With this in mind I'm expecting to only be able to grab a few minutes at a time to game and even when I think I'll have longer I may end up jumping off at short notice. This means I'll almost certainly come to rely on games which I can pause. Unfortunately this isn't possible with Diablo IV since it requires an always online connection even though I'm essentially playing it as a single player game.

What are other people's thoughts?

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[–] GiuEliNo@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate it I try to always avoid always online drm but sometimes it's really impossible, i'm gonna be honest and say that i got some issue with my steamdeck for them. (f u ubisoft btw) So if i find that a singleplayer game needs an always online drm i just don't buy it.

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[–] tom@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hate it as I have a Steam Deck so I just wouldn’t play it if it needed an online connection as I play a lot when travelling.

Happened when I was away with some mates and we tried to play FIFA which needed an initial online connection to Origin. Was infuriating trying to get it work with bad mobile connection

[–] ArtZuron@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine playing FIFA after knowing all the crap they've done.

[–] tom@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Yeh that's fairs, haven't played seriously on FIFA for years now, only ever play when with some of my mates. Don't get how people shell out >£50 each year for a game that is basically the same year on year

[–] Captain_Pieces@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Personally it's never effected me but it feels like a really dumb decision made by ignorant suits. The fact that pirates get a better product than paying customers is pretty sad.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

That and FOMO mechanics are a dealbreaker for me. I love playing video games, even spending a lot of time on them, but they are priority number 3 at best.

I quit War Thunder after grinding some battle pass and realizing I would need to keep up while having the time of my life on an Icelandic vacation. I just stopped, and that feeling of withdrawal is what I associate it with now.

I let it lie on my hard disk for a while, but after trying to play a few times and always feeling that it's the game that's going to play me so I won't enjoy even one match I just gave up and uninstalled.

This was not because of the recent and ongoing crap with the economy btw.

[–] Anabriated@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ironically I think GTAV did a pretty decent job of this - you can pause at any time during the single player, however I don't remember if it requires a connection to play single player mode.

Imo if a game has a single player mode, being online for it should never be a requirement.

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[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

So I have a very specific dog in this fight. I am currently working on an RTS game for the recoil engine. One of my big requirements is the ability for direct hosting without the need of a central server. My biggest argument for this is the fact that if the server ever goes down or I get hit by a truck or anything like that, people can still directly host games.

Also I don't think lan parties should require a trip to a third party server just in order to have games with each other. I feel sometimes like I'm the only person who remembers back in the old days when we had giant lan parties and in a lot of cases there wasn't even really much in the way of internet access to them.

In my personal opinion, I feel like games as a service have done end users a disservice. There are so many games that I would love to go back and play but I can't because the servers don't exist or the developers made it so difficult to host your own servers that you need to jump through a million modding hoops just to make it so that you can actually play a game online with others.

What is really bad though is single player games that require an online connection. Witafits?

[–] Poopfeast420@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Doesn't matter to me one way or another, and it doesn't affect my purchasing decisions.

[–] maltasoron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Concerning gaming with a newborn, you should also look for games that you can play with one hand, so you can hold the baby with the other. Europa Universalis 4 is a great game if you've got a kid who will only fall sleep while being held.

[–] yokonzo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there an offline crack yet? I would have assumed piratws would have for sure gotten that done

[–] OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

D3 still doesn't have an offline crack to my knowledge because the crack isn't going to be simple. In most games, a DRM crack is typically as simple as editing a single instruction to jump over whatever code is trying to call the DRM feature.

But D3 and D4 are different. Essentially, a lot of game logic just isn't available to the client and stored on the server, so any hack will need to replace that. Console versions of D3 actually do have that code available, but now it's a non-trivial matter of porting that code back to the PC...

This will probably never happen unless the source code gets leaked.

I just can't justify purchasing a game where one day someone is going to flip a switch and permanently remove my ability to play it. I'm still playing catch up with games from the 1980s.

[–] resurrect@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would hope that in case of D3 they would patch offline mode to it and after that shut down the servers.

[–] OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they do that then I'll consider getting the game. But I wouldn't hold by breath. If they're wanting to shut down the server then they're probably not going to want to keep hosting a server for the patch either.

[–] resurrect@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

There is so many MUCH better offline alternatives :D I do own diablo 3 but haven't played in years. Not interested in d4, currently playing Grim Dawn.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

My firewall is configured to block all programs by default. If a game refuses to open or function without internet and I can't find any workarounds it gets angry looks from me and I let it through. I get anxious when playing anything multiplayer so doing so saves me from having to interact with people if I accidentally trigger a multiplayer event or something. Also generally makes games launch faster.

[–] Nyxaion@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I almost exclusively play single-player games. I'm not sure I own one that is always online, since I pretty much always have WiFi on and wouldn't notice the difference, but I don't see why any of my games would have to be always online.

[–] Willy@latte.isnot.coffee 1 points 1 year ago

I like it. I like to know that people likely haven’t hacked their chars. I’ve never had my crashing or rubber banding. It’s been seamless and while an offline version would be fine for me, that would never be the real game and you should never be allowed online.

[–] theAndrewJeff@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t love it, but I’ve found that it’s been less intrusive than I thought. Generally only feel it when the internet goes out. That said, I’ve got fairly good fiber internet, so I’m a bit privileged in this regard. We used to have absolutely horrendous rural internet and it sucked.

[–] Krafty@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

@Parellius I prefer games that I can play offline if I need to, but I have been a Diablo fan for over 20 years. Of course I purchased Diablo 4.

[–] SaintxMeow@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I think when it makes sense it's fine, but I would only really say that for multiplayer games, if it's a single player game there is a really unfortunate reality, which is that pirating it will result in a better gameplay experience.

[–] Dezi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I started playing D4 two days ago and constantly try to pause the game when I need to give something else attention. It should also be easy to do when you’re alone in a dungeon. There are games that are online but let you pause when you’re alone (though I can’t remember which game I am thinking of right now)

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