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ITT people having their minds blown by the fact the creator and the creation are two different things.

My hate for Microsoft is based on the Embrace-Extend-Extinguish business tactics they use since the 80's instead of competing on product quality.

Take a look at the recent computing history and you'll find plenty of examples of great software killed by MS shitty alternatives that were the default because of the stranglehold on the OS market.

It’s hard to separate yourself from it when the company you work for uses it heavily and leans on some of the extensions for things like containers.

I used to be a hardcore Sublime Text user until it started formatting all of my code like garbage. I had plugins conflicting with each other and couldn’t find alternatives that did what I needed without clashes happening. Plus, barely anything is alive over on the Sublime side.

It’s hard to say no to an editor with that big of a community. You can find 100 plugins for your one need, vs 2 on the Sublime side (and you end up finding that those 2 plugins haven’t been updated in years).

You can always fallback to VSCodium.

I just want Atom back, or anything that works like it. I want a text editor with a folder tree browser. Syntax highlighting is nice. And decent full project text search.

I use vim for writing code, and atom for taking notes, or just reading code. Then they shut down atom and it sucks.

I hate that I need to dedicate so much time to finding new tools in tech. It’s nice that vim doesn’t change.

Which goes to show that we don't blindly hate Microsoft, and that it's not that we refuse to use Windows because it's made by them, but because it's shit.

I use NeoVim, but I don't hate Microsoft (they contribute a lot to Linux kernel). What is wrong with me?

You use whatever works best for you. Microsoft Lens, on Android, is still unmatched for scanning, correcting perspective, and cleaning up whiteboards. No OSS tool comes close - and, believe me, I tried to use others (or, other; I think OpenScan is the only thing that attempts something similar). It would be foolish to not use a tool that you like using and doesn't have any hidden consequences, merely because of on opinion.

I don't think VSCode is particularly good, myself, but the point remains: it's free, I haven't heard anything about it surreptitiously sending info to MS, and if it works for people, then great.

I use vscodium and ms office 2016, fight me

Free software doesn't have owners, that is kinda the point.

If Windows was open source it wouldn’t be as bad

I wouldn't say I "hate" Microsoft (or Apple, or Google), but I recognize the harm they do to the free software movement and to the technology world in general. I wouldn't avoid a good quality free software just because it's made by a GAFAM company (as long as I stick with the free parts and avoid proprietary extensions), just like I wouldn't use proprietary software just because it's not made by GAFAM.

The point isn't to hate GAFAM but to seek freedom and control over your computing.

I rather use notepad++ masterpiece

I'll be interested to see how JetBrains's Fleet works out. I like Rider a lot more than full Visual Studio (also Rider is actually available on Linux).

most of us hate the government and yet we use the roads

I feel like microsoft's gameplan is less "everyone must use windows" these days and more "we want to gatekeep tech on as many levels as possible". I'm wary of relying on anything they put out. I think we've all recently seen what big tech companies do when they decide its time to monetize more aggressively.

Right now helix is pretty good for what I do with it.

I was using Atom, but that died. I work with both Python and Fortran, and VSCode works for my usecase, but I'm open to suggestions.

Agreed, I share the same frustration (including for Chromium) as if developers were somehow blissfully ignorant of the political and economical power they give away to company that use and abuse their work, truly self flagellating.

I was using Sublime Text for many years. Even after Atom came out I still used ST3. However, ST development is understandably slow compared to VSCode and it is now so far behind that loyalty isn't enough of a reason to continue using it.

I use vscodium btw.

Make something better and I'll switch to it

@flashgnash

VSCodium: https://vscodium.com/

I don't use it.

If you're a true MS hater you can't use TypeScript either. /sarcasm

If you work as developer, depending on where you work at using code editors with features like remote SSH is a must. If you are just a hobbyist even coding on Nodepad++ will do.

Developing in C# in Corporate, so C# debugger only works on VS Code sadly

Vim. viiiiiiiiim

I love vscode. But this thread made me want to learn neovim just so I don't have all my eggs on a single basket.