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Don't think I need to summarize this one. This is bad news for everyone.

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[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (15 children)

earlier than initially projected

There's that phrase again. If only someone had warned us loudly and repeatedly.

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[–] ouch@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a finn, I can live with -40 °C winters, let them come. At least the invading russians will drop dead like flies in the winter. Again.

[–] AJ1@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

as a Canadian, I agree totally. -40 is wayyyy more tolerable than +40. I'll take Hoth over Tatooine any fucking day of the week

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

As someone who whe experienced both-ish, I tend to agree. There is a point where you just get sick when it's too hot and humid and it's way worse than being cold. Your system just shuts down and you feel so bad, and if you don't get away well you die.

That said, -35° is the coldest I have lived through and without proper clothing it's not funny being outside! But it beats dying lol.

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 121 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Basically it's too late to stop the process. Even if we switched to renewables entirely, there will be a lag. That lag is now in a positive feedback loop.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 132 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah like the science community was saying 10-15 years ago.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 76 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I remember some of the early research showing this when I was in college in the late 90s/early 00s. It's mostly following the worst-case scenario models from the time, except 50 - 80 years ahead of schedule.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Whether you can risk it or can't. Its time to disobey our leaders. They dont care. They've built protections for themselves. They plan on feeding us to the storms.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There will be no protection or escape from the environmental changes we'll be facing, this is not something you can just wait out in a bunker.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yep, they'll let the climate kill all of us. Because they won't truly be living either down there. I'm sure all the training courses for guard loyalty in the world won't actually do shit when you're physically down in a bunker without hopes of coming out.

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[–] omgarm@feddit.nl 10 points 4 days ago

I started watching The Nanny a few days ago (have seen a lot on tv, but never everything) and in one of the first episodes they make a joke about being worried about Global Warming. It was lighthearted, not very serious. That was 1993.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If only we knew about this 50 years ago, surely we would have done something!

Big Oil: side eye Muppet meme

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact: They knew since the 1950s and have been lying about it for over 70 YEARS!

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[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 30 points 4 days ago

Summer homes in Europe go up in value. A new market for winter apparel opens too. Just think to the potential market growth. This is going to make a few shrewd entrepreneurs very wealthy. The planet will suffer, but man think of the money.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 89 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Earth will survive and the humans will get what they deserve.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Millions of species will go down with us, some already have been relagated to extinction by our actions.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (17 children)

The dinosaurs got wiped out and new life flourished. The same will happen again.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh then in that case nbd that we take millions of species who were living in harmony with nature with us. Serves them right for . . . existing in the same 20,000 year period we did.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We need to be coordinating human effort across the globe on this above all else. China’s the only one taking it seriously right now.

The people defending the US tariffs on imports of Chinese solar panels are engaging in straight up climate change denial. We don’t have time for industry protectionism. Once the currents collapse, food chain collapse will follow shortly.

China is better in implementing countermeasures than especially the USA (also looking to the dark future ahead) but if they would take it seriously they would need to do quit a bit more especially driving something like a global CO2-tax, but AFAIK they were the ones blocking such measures (not that other nations are much better). THIS would be effective.

[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

I gotta stop using chrome on my phone 😔

[–] styxem@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Mildly fitting though. "Ecological collapse is imminent; please buy more products."

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ecological collapse is imminent; please buy more products

If there is a better epitaph for Humanity, I have not heard it.

Can we Laser etch this quote onto the moon's surface before the last human dies please?

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[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Firefox mobile supports ublock origin

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Humanity will be just another dead branch on the tree of life

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Humans are pretty resilient. Adaptable to any climate, even the mess of a climate we created.

Now, I'm not saying that all 8 billion of us will survive.

What I'm saying is, the minimum viable genetic population for humans is about 2000 individuals.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When food runs out for even a portion of those 8 billion, results are gonna be nasty.

It's hard to talk about climate initiatives when 1/3 of the planet is shooting eatch other. In worst case with nukes.

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[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

B-but the oil lobbyists at COP told me amoc won't be affected

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

So, what does this all mean for us? It means we have even less time to get our act together. Reducing emissions isn’t just a good idea — it’s crucial.

I don't think this will motivate countries to dramatically increase emissions reduction efforts, but I think it will motivate countries to begin geoengineering. Geoengineering is cheaper and easier than rapid emissions reduction, and the results are more immediate. Yes, it doesn't solve the core problem, which is the concentration of GHGs in the atmosphere, but it treats the symptom, albeit temporarily. Why put a lot of time, money, and effort into fixing the core problem when you can spend comparatively less time, money, and effort just treating the symptom? Then you can just pretend the core problem doesn't exist and go about business as usual.

Edit: sorry, I should have added the /s.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I don't think you realize what a collapsed ocean current means for us. This is existential, not business as usual. Anything we do from here on out that isn't in service of stopping this is signing our species death warrant.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Haha fricking euros enjoying their moderate climate - wait until they find out what’s real Midwest winter is like. And they want to take my truck and my gas stove? Eff them.

/too many conservatives probably

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[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Huh. That's oddly freeing

"Oh we're all fucked guaranteed. The stress is gone"

I mean, still gonna be for eco measures and such, but it's like a weight is off my shoulders in terms of worry

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s not freeing. We may have locked in some really bad changes but it can always get worse. It more critical than ever to get a handle on our green house emissions

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

It's freeing for me in that, "No matter what, we're at the guaranteed fuck stage. My brain is now freeing up the energy that goes to unproductive worry, and it can now be spared for productive minimization of damage", which I thought was clear with me saying "Still gonna be for eco measures and such"

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