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Summary

Pete Hegseth, Donald Trump’s nominee for Defense Secretary, has sparked controversy over his extremist rhetoric, detailed in his 2020 book American Crusade.

Hegseth advocates for a “holy war” against leftist “enemies” and envisions a potential civil war if Democrats prevail politically, stating the military and police would need to choose sides.

He openly dismisses democracy, endorses gerrymandering, and promotes nationalist, anti-globalist ideologies.

Critics warn of his loyalty to Trump and his potential support for militarized actions against domestic opposition, raising alarms about his suitability to oversee the Pentagon.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In fiction, evil plans in secret.

In reality, evil plans right out in the open and people cheer for them.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Evil has their own propaganda station

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

Multiple propaganda stations.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does he think the military is a monolith? There are plenty of people on both sides of the political spectrum. If anything the military will fracture in a civil war.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Time and time again the US military has been perfectly fine turning its weapons on Americans. I don't think we should have any faith in US military personnel standing up.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Not if the civil war begins after the Project 2025 personnel purge

[–] teft@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe, but from my experience in the army they’d have to purge more than half the force. And then you have lots and lots soldiers unaligned to your views with nothing to do. Rebel armies have been constructed with less.

Just saying.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They’re planning to use Schedule F to fire hired government employees and replace them with loyalists, regardless of their experience or qualifications. This wouldn’t apply to troops, but it would apply to the DOD.

Soldiers would be given orders by the loyalists. I’m assuming they’d be dishonorably discharged for insubordination if they refused to follow orders, but you’d know better than me.

[–] snowboardbum@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The military has spent a good decade now training soldiers to know what an illegal order is and that they best ignore it.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

Or else what, now? The threat of military and civilian justice doesn't work well in a system that will almost certainly be rigged to ignore anything illegal that a soldier does in the commission of Trump's orders. The entire indoctrination there relies heavily on the threat of military and DOJ proceedings, and once both of those are pretty well captured, there's really not much. We have a law that says the ICC can't prosecute American soldiers for war crimes - in fact, attempting to do so is considered an act of war.

I don't disagree that a lot of the military won't follow orders at first, but I think when some of them start realizing that their fellow soldiers are getting away with things that would normally be considered criminal, you'll see them starting to turn around on it. Corruption is a cancer and in this case, it's poised to be incredibly aggressive.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obviously the military will take a side.

But, this isn't the 1800s.

We will be pounced upon, infiltrated, and ultimately subjugated by what will formerly have been near-peers.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Our adversaries would have a difficult time invading even a fractured US, nobody really has the naval forces to pull it off besides us. If they did try, it would be with the help of a former American faction that would be foolish enough to believe the leopard wouldn't eat them.

I think they would be more interested in taking the opening to settle their regional aspirations. Taiwan, SE Asia, the Balkans and Eastern Europe...

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 25 points 22 hours ago

No need to invade when you can just pay for a few shitposts and watch the USA destroy itself.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I don't think a military invasion is really necessary. An infiltration of our power structures is going to be the way to achieve their own national objectives. And, I hope I'm being dramatic, but I think Trump is paving the way for it.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The US Military swears an oath to the constitution, not the president, or the bible....so....GLHF!

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

Oh sweet summer child...all elected members of Congress do too ..

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

these highly trained individuals, from various backgrounds around the world are all held honorably to a code of ethics and justice.

This is gonna be one of those believe it when I see the results kinda situations, fellas. I just ain't buying the ROTC combat boots kids in highschool being particularly tolerant.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Should be an interesting conformation hearing. Chaired by Mitch McConnell, BTW.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Should be ~~an interesting~~ a depressing AF conf~~o~~irmation hearing. Chaired by Mitch McConnell, BTW.

FTFY

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It could go either way. McConnell is not a maga and in his last term. He may not give a fuck about Trump. We'll see

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

He's also stepping down as Majority Leader, so, who knows what the next guy will do

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

Thune was Mitch's Whip so I expect them to work hand in hand.