If anything modern day santa is more of an invention of Coca-Cola than Christianity or Paganism.
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As an atheist I really think getting upset over Xmas is about as stupid as thinking Santa Claus is communist for wearing red. It's a social holiday! Enjoy it! Go to parties, put up lights, exchange presents. Think of Santa as a red Winnie the Pooh and chill TF out.
Santa is pagan, they put that dude on cereal boxes.
It's always baffling how people can define something as unacceptable. Says who? You? Who are you to just make that decision so unilaterally?
You can have your opinion, but it's just that.
And their opinion is that this is unacceptable and outrageous.
I guess. The way it's formulated purposefully removes them from the statement, though.
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What's more infuriating is that they immediately gave in and removed it without any discussion
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Wait till they see the vlc logo during christmas ...
What is it like?
If I remember correctly it switches to this logo during christmas
Anyone else get the urge to pull the hat down?
Christmas is no longer a holiday that honors the Christian god, it's a holiday that honors the god of capitalism, money.
Cool, so it's still worth eschewing /s
I would like to note though that xmas is a very sore time of year for a lot of people (mostly queer, but others too) who do not have a good relationship with their family
That's why I think it's important that we bring Christmas back to its true religious roots: Fertility, hunting, and maybe a cult of the dead.
Well, that and I just kind of want to piss off all of my pearl clutching relatives.
But seriously, thank you for the reminder that this can be a particularly hard season.
I hope your solstice is marked by good times with real friends and chosen family.
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I just use it to have a merry time with my family. Corporations try to co-opt everything; Christmas is no different. Is Pride about honoring greed and capitalism just because companies make everything rainbow? No, and neither is Christmas even though they try their best with that too. The only difference is buying gifts, but Christmas is about more than that, and homemade gifts are always an option.
We've stopped with presents in my family, except for the kids. And they don't get showered in them, a few things they really want, preferably cheap. Everyone else just wants nice food and family coziness.
What religious symbol? Saint Nicholas had nothing to do with the fat guy dressed in red that coca cola made up. The hat is fine goddammit
Well, they took inspiration from Clement Clarke Moore's (1922) "Twas the night before Christmas" and illustrations from Thomas Nast (1881) showing him in red with the sack over his shoulder. Certainly, Coca Cola has solidified the modern image with their ad campaign though starting in 1931. Src
TIL coca cola didn't create it, ty
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And spawned an even longer shit fit.
Some people just want to be offended and we should simply let them.
Love the fact that this spawned new issues complaining about the debugger icon promoting violence against insects.
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Wait, did I read that correctly and they replaced the hat with a snowflake?? Hahahaha
And yes, people often forget that generally offense is taken. When it's intentionally given, it's pretty clear.
I'm from Australia and snowflakes during December is hemispherist and offensive to us down under.
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they replaced the hat with a snowflake?
As someone from the global south i find the snowflake in winter offensive!
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Jesus Christ what is wrong with people... Microsoft giving in to a clear troll, surprised they didn't just lock and ignore that shit and move on.
Jesus Christ is not my Lord and saviour. I demand you delete this post immediately and apologise. This is as insulting to me as pineapple on a pizza
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I hope they never walk past a church…
Christmas is religion yes, but Santa doesn't really have anything to do with religion other than being on Christmas right?
Yea, Santa is the more secular icon. There are even Christians that take issue with the Santa character (which is a combination of "Pagan" and Christian mythos). I put Pagan in quotes, as that's a Christian term for certain non-Christian beliefs.
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I don’t think an actual Jew would equate a religious symbol with a swastika
But I do agree that religious imagery should never be in public
I don't think Santa = swastika but it is super tiresome when Halloween ends and suddenly there's Christmas shit everywhere. I know it's more a factor of capitalism than Christianity, but it even infects the meager Hanukkah end caps we get. There's frequently products being sold that are clearly just Christmas goods painted blue and white (argh) paraded around as Hanukkah goods. Fuckin blue and white pine tree tchotchkes? C'mon what the fuck is that? Hell, one year I saw "chocolate Maccabes" which were literally just chocolate Santa candies in a different foil.
It's all expected, it happens every year (though the holiday seems to take up more of the calendar each year), but damn is it tiresome. And don't get me started on the music!
Or equate a santa hat to a religious symbol.
Sing along kids! Mr. Ghosty the Christmas troll...
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