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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is great, they found a use for their pizza sauce that fermented.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Definitely enough sugar in THAT.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I prefer potato wine. And by wine I mean distilled spirits. And by distilled spirits, I mean vodka. I could do with a potato wine tonic right now.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Lemon drop martini is my way to drink vodka!

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same! I’m out though here at home. If I ever met you in public, I’d buy you a vodka neat, on the rocks, soda, or with any mixer of your choice.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why thank you. Tonic is definitely my first choice if it's just one mixer, although my go-to drink is usually a bloody Mary.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Sure thing, man. You’ve been a staple of the community so I’d be happy to chat and have a drink with you!

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not exactly. Tomatoes are the world's largest berries, considered a fruit in botany.

Ketchup has vinegar in it. A properly brewed wine won't have vinegar.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Aren't bananas berries, too?

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but strawberries are not. Strawberries and pineapples are both accessory fruits, and raspberries are aggregate fruits (still not berries).

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

banana wine would be weird

I used to be in barista, one of my friends used to come in and ask me for a latte with a triple banana shot in it.

So, I know at least one person who would be in the market for it.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I've had banana wine before, it's better than you think.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I used to live in an apartment where the guy across the hall from me made wine from all sorts of unconventional fruit. I brew beer, and we would trade sometimes. Several of his wines were really good, but the banana wine was the best one by far!

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, when not brewed properly and exposed to oxygen while brewing. Hence my disclaimer, when brewed properly.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You're all wrong. Different strains of yeast are used in making vinegar. Oxygen is integral to primary fermentation in both wine and vinegar but in secondary and bottling it is minimized because oxidation negatively affects the flavor. If you end up with vinegar when you tried to make wine, it's because yeast that produce vinegar got into your brew.

[–] MCHEVA4EVA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeast are used to ferment sugars to alchol, acetic acid bacteria are used to convert alchol into acetic acid. Yeast and bacteria are different.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

congrats on finally reading the wikipedia page.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In our experiences, it depended on the fruit we started with. Watermelon was the worst, after like 2 weeks of brewing, it would be around half vinegar.

Elderberry came out the best, basically the same process. Granted we didn't use proper brewers yeast though, we just used bread yeast.

My daddy wasn't a normal person, but we got drunk on the cheap LOL!

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you end up with vinegar, it's because of the yeast. Yeast is naturally everywhere, so when you're fermenting you can either use chemicals or heat to sterilize your mash (whatever you're fermenting) to help make sure only the yeast you add is populating the batch. Otherwise, yeah, the natural yeasts that are already on the fruit, grains or whatever will do their own thing.

Keep in mind there are similar flavours to vinegar that can be produced even if there's little to no acetic acid present, like sour beers that use lactobacillus or if you boil your grains too hot for too long on a dark beer.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You do realize that some pop stars use their pussy yeast to make their own name brand wines right?

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If that is in fact a thing, it's marketing and fermentation doesn't work that way. And raises a lot of interesting question about how they manage to clear FDA guidelines. I wonder if their candida is isolated and propagated in controlled conditions? More likely it's a lie.

The yeast that colonizes humans is a different species altogether and doesn't produce alcohol, at least not in concentrations high enough to make wine. Actually would love an expert to come in on this, I learned about it long ago but have forgotten the details.

Anyway, I know enough to say they could add their natural spice to the mix, but they need wine yeast to make the alcohol which will quickly out-compete whatever strains they're shlipping in there.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just plucking a random article here, not necessarily the one I was looking for..

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/influencer-selling-beer-made-out-31398006

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's behind a paywall. I'm gonna stand on the side of science and point back to what I said in my last response.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Huh both those articles confirm what I said and say the claim might be a prank. I don't know what this has to do with being wrong about where vinegar comes from.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a hilariously misinformed response to that comment

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] rishado@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Today, I feel misinformed

[–] TRBoom@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

Fuck! It’s all sold out :(

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

So... kind of like a bloody mary?

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago
[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do tomatoes even have enough sugar to ferment into a usable amount of alcohol without "spiking" the juice first?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's a vineyard in Door County Wisconsin (the peninsula on Lake Michigan) that makes wine out of blackberries and blueberries and such. Even those get an extra shot of sugar added before fermentation.

It's hard to match the sugar content of wine grapes. We've been tuning those varietals for a long time.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Probably not. We used to dabble with brewing our own wines, and almost everything we tried still needed like a half a pound of sugar or more per 5 gallon jug.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mmmm, Tomato wine with a pineapple wedge...

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] comador@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Definitely. They should have provided a pairing guide with it lol.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

So should this be served warm?