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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 56 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I love when a God type peeks in from heaven, from time to time, performs a technology review with his main human peeps, and together they conclude a VPN is probably bad for the community / personal development / a deeper connection with said God etc.

So cool. Praise be heavenly technical reviews.

[–] vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 days ago

Thou shalt not browse The Internet

[–] pagenotfound@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

I can’t believe this wasn’t an Onion piece. Lol.

[–] magoosh@feddit.nl 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Guess any Pakistani corporation with some IT are breaking the law then

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 6 days ago

i doubt this law applies to beautiful legal people, just shiti organics...

that's how these regimes operate lol

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago

The title is (kind of) clickbait. It's actually just been ruled that using a VPN to access blocked content is against Sharia law. But fuck if that headline isn't funny

[–] LEVI@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Exmuslim here, it's forbidden in Islam to spy on people ( invade their privacy ), but there is another rule ( which is not actually written, at least not in the main scriptures ), that basically flips everything around, lying, stealing, killing, invading someone else privacy.. etc everything becomes allowed, because it's a necessity... now you might be asking, how and when you know it's a necessity to do something that's officially forbidden by Allah ( in this case invading others privacy ) ?

the answer is.. it's subjective, you just make up your own mind, and justify it with : it's a necessity, may Allah forgive me 🥺👉👈

Of course, I'm being too optimistic, religion is there so people don't use their brains, in reality people ask imams ( our version of priests ) who have authority because "they know" these stuff, it's just makes life easier

push users to register VPNs with the state’s media regulator, ostensibly to enhance cybersecurity and fight terrorism.

Ahh, the terrorism excuse, ok.. define terrorism ?!

again, their own sharia laws are against them..lol.., Invading people's privacy is prohibited in Islam, so They're going out of their way, and against the word of their holy Prophet

“Using VPNs to access blocked or illegal content is against Islamic and social norms, therefore, their use is not acceptable under Islamic law. It falls under ‘abetting in sin,’ ” said the statement, quoting the council’s chairman, Raghib Naeemi.

man, don't you just love it when religious people try to save you from eternal hell?

[–] blenderdumbass@lm.madiator.cloud 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

how and when you know it’s a necessity

I did the math actually. And it seems like mass surveillance will only be justified if homicide rates are higher than 20% ( if 1 out of 5 people die in murder ). And only if surveillance actually stops all the crime ( which it doesn't ) and only if there is nothing less problematic that could be used instead ( which there are plenty techniques, like normal regular investigation, where you ask people around on their own terms ). Basically the math says it isn't justified by an apocalyptic margin.

[–] LEVI@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Oh, Are you the same Blender Dumbass 2.0 ?

And only if surveillance actually stops all the crime ( which it doesn't )

When mass surveillance works, you lose your rights, and when it doesn't work as intended ( which as the government says to protect you from terrorists ), it gets things wrong and it can be too damaging, like when Google flagged a man who sent his child's photos to a doctor, or when Facial recognition system gets the wrong person, or when a bank algorithm locks someone of their own account due to suspicious activity.. etc

So we're damned when it works and we're damned when it doesn't.

Edit: how can I do the math? Do you have any links..

[–] blenderdumbass@lm.madiator.cloud 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Are you the same Blender Dumbass 2.0 ?

I am the same blenderdumbass as in odysee.com/@blenderdumbass:f and as in blenderdumbass.org

[–] LEVI@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

well, you're becoming famous :) .. interesting articles you got there 😁

[–] blenderdumbass@lm.madiator.cloud 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

how can I do the math? Do you have any links…

I documented the math I did on this article: https://blenderdumbass.org/articles/Surveillance_Harms_1000_Times_More_Than_It_Helps.md

[–] iii@mander.xyz 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If jaweh wanted VPN, then why isn't it in the koran?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Quran prohibits spying and other violations of privacy.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Please forward this information to the pakistani religious body. They might've received a faulty copy of the document.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Read the article beyond the headline

[–] Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Summary by brave leo :

  • Pakistan's top advisory body on religious affairs, the Council of Islamic Ideology, declared that using virtual private networks (VPNs) to access blocked content is against Islamic law.
  • The government is pushing users to register VPNs with the state's media regulator, ostensibly to enhance cybersecurity and fight terrorism, but critics say it increases online surveillance and curbs freedom of expression.
  • The government claims VPNs are being used to access "immoral and porn websites" and to facilitate "violent activities and financial transactions" by terrorists.
  • Opponents of the restrictions say the increased push to control online activities is aimed at curbing criticism of the Pakistani military.
  • The government has announced a "streamlined" VPN registration process, but experts say it allows authorities to track online activities and limit privacy.
  • The nationwide internet regulation tool acquired from China increases the Pakistani state's capability to monitor communications, raising concerns about data breaches and online security.
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

lmao, try stop me

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

On the other hand, they've blocked Xitter in Pakistan.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago