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[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 58 points 6 days ago

This was his cornerstone campaign promise. And y’all voted for it either directly by voting for him or indirectly by not voting at all.

Don’t act surprised.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Latinos down in the Texas valley (you know, right next to Mexico) swung hard for Trump. This will be interesting to see how it comes back to bite them.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Operation Wetback in the 50s deported a shit load of American citizens. I wouldn’t be surprised if that happens again in large numbers.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 24 points 6 days ago

My friends uncle got deported as an American citizen a long time ago in San Diego. They arrested him after he realized he had forgotten his wallet and was running home to get it before the next bus came. Obviously, any brown guy running down the street must be an illegal immigrant to these people.

[–] EchoCranium@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 days ago

They surely won't have to endure the increased harassment from cops and border patrol agents, right? Once Trump green-lights vigorous racial profiling, that'll only affect other people...

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

While horrendous, a great many of them (or their families) are completely complicit, so my empathy for them is a lot lower than it probably should be.

Of course, my heart does go out to those who had no hand in this monstrosity, although they will still equally be affected by it.

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So the media is now shocked at his released plan? What are we supposed to do? Vote? Have an armed uprising?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, like no shit he is. Is this really the "he's going to do what he said he would? I thought he wouldn't!" phase of people figuring out they're living in a fascist dictatorship?

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

I don't understand how people can say he's not actually going to do the things he says he's going to do... When he was already president and did the things he said he was going to do.... Like how can you sit there and be like no he doesn't mean it... The sexual assaulting orange asshole says everything he's going to do... Or blames others for doing it but is the one actually doing it.

I'm 50% convinced they somehow figured out how to actually rig this election... Between him saying that he already had the votes and muskrat doing all the illegal shit he did to help him win because he was going to go to jail otherwise... And how fast all these votes came in the election was over by the end of the night... Even though States had to hand count and had passed weird laws...

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Something tells me this will go about as well as that ridiculous wall idea

Wait till they start asking you for money to fund the project.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Look at the numbers. Trump is a dumb turd, but surely some saavy Republicans pulling strings must realize if you just grant these people citizenship they end up voting Republican.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would only be advantageous if you valued democracy. The only reason the GOP cares about elections is because they need to win them to install an authoritarian. A group of minorities to scapegoat is much more valuable to the GOP project.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Scapegoating them is one thing. Actually deporting them is another. The people who employ illegal immigrants are doing it so they can pay them a pittance and have leverage over them. They're not going go want their cheap workforce deported simply because it'll increase costs.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Deporting 5-10 % of your population will absolutely wreck your economy to the point that it might never recover. Good luck with that

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Lol, good luck.

As some other, older, group might explain to you, deportations are hard and frigging expensive. You'd need beyond massive deportation centers and soon enough you'll need camps where you, I dunno, can concentrate people closer together, shall we say...

Even so, you need to transport these people somewhere, costing thousands of dollars per person. Twenty million people it was? That's 20-40 billion dollars. The camps themselves will go into the dozens of billions to build and maintain, adding all those prison camp guards, and removing roughly 5-10% of your workforce alone will wreck your economy.

If Trump deports as many people as he promised he would, it will wreck the US beyond recovery.

That leads me neatly into the next point: resistance. If you think you can deport 20 million people without anyone lifting a finger then you should read up on history. Also, now we have social media. It will be minutes until the internet overflows with horrible videos of innocent people getting brutalized or killed. That will totally not end up with mass protests throughout the country.

As soon as any of this starts it will become a shitshow like nobody has seen before, to use one of Trump's favorite phrases.

What more likely will happen in that a few tens of thousands people will be deported and that's it. Of course those deported likely won't be illegals, but who cares, they got Spanish sounding names, that's all they need. Republicans will start seeing the real cost of quickly abandon this stupidity and just act like mission accomplished!

Fuck it's hard to not be cynical, but if Trump / right wing Jesus lovers do what they want, they'll run the country off a cliff it will never be able to recover from. Not that I care at this point, let it burn. You will get what you voted for

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Paywall or something weird like that.