The desktop site is not any better. The uBlock origin rules for blocking shorts are a lifesaver.
this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2023
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I have several Tampermonkey scripts to keep Youtube useable: 
Additionally uBlock, and a plugin to alter the number of results per row (so I don't wind up with gigantic tiles/icons on a large monitor).
It's a complete disaster without these. :/
Yep, I also have one to automaticlly stop the annoying autoplay on channel pages.
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YouTube is that desperate to be TikTok. Why?
Because it seems to be working for TikTok. People's attention spans are getting shorter and these short videos, each a couple of seconds long, are a money printer, as Google can put even more ads in between even less content.
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I absolutely despise Shorts. Partly for the inane TikTok apeing content, partly because of vertical video and primarily because I make 45-60 second videos for clients and they want them on YouTube - where they become Shorts, no matter what I do (other than add enough empty video at the end to take them past 61 seconds). It's infuriating.
I hate Shorts because it insists on showing me bullshit 1-2 view shorts of just inane shit interspersed between ones I actually don't mind.
I hate shorts because they're the wrong aspect ratio.
Revanced lets you hide shorts.
Newpipe doesn't even know shorts exist.
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Ok so I am a youtube premium subscriber. And to have the best experience, I had to install 4 plugins Sponsorblock, Dislike button back, Dearrow, ublock (to remove shorts).
After thier recent changes to their search engine, it might be more efficient to cancel my subscription and use piped.
If you feel like keeping YouTube premium you could always vpn to another country and get it for stupid cheap. I believe I vpn’d to Thailand and pay $2 a month for it. You only need the vpn to set up the sub and then you’re good to go.
Pretty sure they just fixed the loophole. I tried to renew my subscription in India and they now require your payment method to be in the country you are subscribing in e.g. you need an Indian credit card.
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Use the Revanced app on android and you can remove these
I do use newpipe, had to fire up the YouTube app for Chromecasting to a TV and was greeted by this.
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Plus there's more shorts that are camouflaged as normal videos:
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This is the worst thing ever.
Like Bo Burnham once said in an interview. Social media companies want to occupy and completely take over your attention.
We are fucked as a species until governments- backed by scientists, put their foot down and stop unnecessary technology that doesn't improve or enrich peoples lifes and in fact only degrade peoples brain and attention span.
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What, you didn't go to YouTube because you want tiktok videos? I only go to YouTube when I'm looking for short punchy videos that could be gifs. I mean what else is the point of a video search engine? I crave pointless short videos with little to no detail on anything.
revanced.
Google should split shorts into a separate app and then let it die like everything else.
I've successfully moved to LibreTube and its fucking bliss.
Youtube search on desktop isn't great, but usable. Youtube search on a phone is fucked. It's taken up with things like recommendations based on things you already watched which is not likely to have much to do with what you were searching for.
I'm sorry guys, I actually watch the YouTube Shorts so Google pushing them into more people is my fault. I just don't care to download Tik Tok and have yet another app. 😭
I don't think the shorts themselves are a problem, but I've never searched for a short
Oh yeah I was only posting dumb comments for content for lemmy. The issue is definitely because YouTube is pushing them front and center on the home screen of the app.
I've never actually searched for shorts either; I only ever watch my shorts via clicking on the "Shorts" link at the bottom of the app.
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I just don't get the point. Why not watch full length videos where you can have context and actually learn something? Shorts can't really provide context so are just funny moments or something that aren't really that interesting, just a waste of time.
Listen, I'm a busy guy with a life. I don't have 20 minutes to dedicate to a video. I'd rather watch a few shorts... a quick ~~5~~ ~~10~~ ~~30~~ 45 minute session is all I'm after...
I honestly only watch them when I'm super bored or high in bed when I want quick laughs. But honestly, the same question can be asked of people who scroll on Facebook, lemmy, or Reddit hours on end
I would agree with Facebook (and I'll admit I'm biased), but Lemmy/Reddit are about conversations, and context/information are important. Shorts/tiktok are about quick things that catch your eye and you forget about seconds later, and they can't inform you on much, if anything.
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With the sketchiness about TikTok, I much prefer YouTube for shorts.
Sure they’re both evil under the hood. But TikTok scares me more. So I actually appreciate Google digging their claws into this one a little bit.
There is sorta a way to minimize this. You can set a duration preference. Just set it to 4-20 minutes or longer and no shorts will pop up.
I wonder what will YouTube remove next
If you say "Not interested" on all the videos in the group, they will go away (for a while). God help you if you miss the triple-dots and tap the thumbnail though.
They need filters for sure, I don't mind shorts but they are treated exactly the same as any other video on the platform.
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That's why you are supposed to use Newpipe. (Preferrably the version with Sponsorblock and Return Youtube Dislikes)
Fuck YouTube
They might fuck themselves when they start forcing people to turn off adblockers after 3 videos. It's being tested in different places (probably A/B testing) and when it becomes standard, I wonder what people will start doing.
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I don't get the shorts. It may be because I refuse to watch them, I don't know
My favorite part is when the app randomly starts playing a random short when you open the app.
I just use third party apps
I got the original video at the top...
When i search for something on youtube, i use google. I almost never use the youtube search
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