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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I'm a manager at a large aerospace and defense company. We had a hybrid arrangement where most people (who didn't have to touch hardware) could work from home a couple days a week. Most people seemed to think it was pretty reasonable. There really are benefits to in person collaboration, so some on site days seemed to make sense.

We recently moved to fully RTO, and I find it frustrating. It's not a big deal personally - I live close and I'm older - but it pisses off a lot of the employees, who see no good reason for it. I don't see any notable productivity increase moving from three to five days on site, it just makes my management job harder.

[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You mean Amazon is bad to their workers?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He pointed to Amazon’s principle of “disagree and commit,” which is the idea that employees should debate and push back on each others ideas respectfully

That’s all fine and dandy for ending debate about a stupid roadmap feature, but “disagree and commit” is a different story when you’re asking people to spend 3 hours unpaid in a car everyday.

[–] Banik2008@infosec.pub 7 points 1 month ago

As a long time Amazon employee, disagree and commit essentially works like this:

Employee: "I'm not convinced this is the best way to do something"

Manager: "Noted, now stfu and do what I say"

[–] BoomBoomBoomBoom@lemmings.world 10 points 1 month ago

Can the Amazon prime boss leave instead?

[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Go into the office and waste every resource you can.

Plug in a fan + heater + aquarium + massage pad at your desk and leave everything on constantly even when you leave

Print every email and throw it in the trash.

Make coffee 50x a day and pour it down the sink

Flush a whole roll of TP every hour

Leave sinks on in the bathroom

Use entire tubs of soap to wash your hands

Turn on the microwave for hours at a time

Heat/cool office thermometer to force HVAC into overdrive

Open new browser windows until your computer crashes and repeat until the network goes down

Company wide meme emails that everyone participates in (team building) that crash servers and dominate inboxes

Pour sugar/crumbs everywhere so there's pest problems

Accept every phishing email

Put USB sticks found on the ground into your work computer

Open the door for strangers who want to get in the building without a badge

FORM A UNION

(nuclear option) introduce bedbugs to all your bosses offices

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Do it during holiday season. Do it.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why don't they just keep working from home and get fired? Instead of having to quit themselves?

[–] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Getting fired with cause doesn't come with severance and looks bad on a resume.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You don't put that you were fired on your resume though...

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[–] noxy@yiffit.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nice window behind him there. Good and high up.

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[–] Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For this kind of thing to stop, people need to get real. We need someone to take it for the team and crowbar this guy's knees.

Words don't have meaning to these people. Logic, Reasoning is beyond comprehension.

Aren't we at a point finally where maybe after so much debating, arguing, compromising and negotiating that has fallen through that maybe a lick of violence is the answer?

I can tell you if we took a crowbar to at least 10 Executives, throw 5 CEOs out from the highest windows and entrap 20 middle managing power-tripping pricks. I'm sure this would be a huge U-Turn for these people.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Why commute to work when you can just become a terrorist and spend all your time in prison?

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

You say that but that's literally how we got all the 'good' stuff we enjoy as employees now, in the US at least. Guys wbacj then literally went to war against the bosses and physically forced them to the metaphorical table.

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