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[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wonder if he really is gone or this is just a ruse

Less suspicious than two 'self inflicted' shots to the back of the head 🀣

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What benefit is there for Russia for this to be a ruse?

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could be a ruse of his. Like, faking his death so the FSB won't come after him.

[–] subignition@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

disappearing to sneak up on Putin action-movie style?
...nah, probably not for real. but maybe in some high schooler's homework in a couple decades!

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s probably his ruse to hide from Putin

Logical, I could see this as a possibility.

[–] traveler@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe he actually is dead, but that Putin probably had nothing to do with it. Probably again a failure in their AA systems and they accidentally shot down its plane.

Putin has only to lose by his dead since if people think it's him Wagner PMC might now actually reach Moscow.

[–] gbuttersnaps@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

Three top ranking members of Wagner on the flight, Prigozhins main connection to the oil & gas sector, and Prigozhins body squad all on board, I doubt a mercenary army is organized enough to make an actual push without their leadership. You have to remember, a huge part of the Wagner ground forces were recruited from prisons and told "If you live 6 months on the frontline, you earn your freedom." I doubt most of the soldiers are actually loyal to Prigozhin, they just saw an opportunity for freedom from Russian prisons.

[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Occam’s razor.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Hours before the plane crash, news about the fate of another senior Russian figure emerged from Russian state media.

Gen. Sergei Surovikin, a top general who has been missing from public view since the mercenary rebellion, was dismissed as head of the country’s aerospace forces, Russian state media reported Wednesday.

The news followed months of speculation about Surovikin, who was known to have been close to Prigozhin.

Yevgeny Prigozhin was listed as one of 10 people aboard the plane involved in Wednesday's deadly crash north of Moscow, according to Russia's aviation authorities.

But the Kremlin itself, and most notably Russian president Vladimir Putin, has so far been silent on the dramatic incident.

The fate of the mercenary chief β€” once a close ally of Putin before he clashed with Moscow's military leadership then launched his aborted mutiny β€”Β will now hang over Russia's elite.


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[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] authed@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

At least the summary doesn't contain more words than the original all article.....

[–] Wander@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard on the news that no one survived.

[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean no, no one would survive that.

The question is always whether he was truly on the plane or not.

[–] Zoboomafoo@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Acedelgado@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

His body doubles surgery hasn't healed yet. Give it more time.