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[–] Emi@ani.social 23 points 1 month ago (6 children)

All fines should be percentage of income instead of some arbitrary number.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They also need to remove the limited liability from companies for intentional illegal activities.

illegal business practices should be charged to the people involved instead of the company. The executives who made the decision to break the law lose personal assets.

Otherwise the shitheads just pass the company losses onto the employees: no raises, hiring freezes, layoffs, reduction in benefits, etc...

[–] yuki2501@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Intentional? Better use Negligent. It's hard to prove intent; knowledge of something going on is much easier to prove.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

100%. We need more personal liability for the evils of big business, not less

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[–] FJW@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago

That “m” should be a “b”. For a company that size, there is truly no excuse!

[–] Teal@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (15 children)

This is like when Dr Evil asks for $1 million dollars after being unfrozen. These courts need to get with the times.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Should be like GDPR fines: 4% of your annual global revenue.

Edit: just read "It has so far fined Meta a total of 2.5 billion euros for breaches under the bloc's General Data Protection Regulation's (GDPR), introduced in 2018, including a record 1.2 billion euro fine in 2023 that Meta is appealing"

Wow, Meta really likes donating to the EU

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[–] Laristal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And these are the people who demand id to get back into your account if they find activity they deem suspicious.

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep, had basically a throw away account for the occasional thing that basically required a Facebook account, and then I guess because I never posted anything they locked my account and demanded ID. Hell no.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Meta's revenue is in the tens of billions. This fine isn't even a rounding error for them. This isn't something that should be taken so lightly.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah that was just a cost of business. Zuck probably pulled that from under his couch.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have you seen IT budgets? Some vice-president of technology is going to be pissed his numbers look bad compared to his peers during their weekly numbers measuring contest.

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[–] oo1@lemmings.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope i dont get fined for

5e884898da28047151d0e56f8dc6292773603d0d6aabbdd62a11ef721d1542d8

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nah, sha-256 is fine, though you should pick something stronger than "password"

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry I don't use that for my internet bank: 19513FDC9DA4FB72A4A05EB66917548D3C90FF94D5419E1F2363EEA89DFEE1DD

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

well, "Password1" is slightly better, I'll make sure not to tell anyone.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I appreciate that. I paid an independent IT security consultant lot of money to help me come up with it - so I don't want to have to change it.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

17 cents apiece

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Jesus, why not fine them 5 bucks?

What a joke.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Quick math: this is only 0.076% of their 2023's revenue. No wonder big corporations don't give a fuck about fines and will continue doing fucked up/illegal shit. This is not a fine, this is a green light, my friends.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They literally just consider fines as a cost of doing business.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (13 children)

They still store the passwords like that? I remember that quote of Zuckerberg doing so, in the early days, and boasting about it to a friend... This was so outrageous at the time. Now it's beyond absurdity.. Not to mention the fine is so small!

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Considering how old Facebook is, you'd think they would have their shit together when it comes to password security...

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Facebook is huge and has very diverse teams/departments. It's absolutely possible the guys who know what security is, and the guys who build app xyz are in different departments, countries, continents.

The capitalists want us to believe otherwise, but large corporations are just as convoluted and inefficient as a planned economy.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Of not more. At least government gives some amount of insight and a chain of responsibility. Corporations are opaque and responsibility ends in an understaffed, underpaid "support" line.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Considering how old Facebook is…. They probably never bothered to upgrade the authentication system because “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and it didn’t matter to their revenue.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

At the time Facebook was invented, plaintext passwords had been a joke for years.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Password hashing has been standard practice far longer than Facebook has existed. Even by 2004's awful, 'archaic' standards.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

Meta: The company whose products you use when you absolutely, positively, don't give a shit that they are the worst example of the worst nightmare of a consumer-hostile, privacy-invading, you-are-the-product, tech company. Yes, even worse than Microsoft.

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

This is why you never reuse passwords. Usually there's no way to tell if a site is storing them in plain text until there's a data breach.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Glad I deleted mine in 2018 and use a password manager (KeepassDX). Only socials I have are Lemmy, Mastodon (rarely used), and Nostr. If it aint FOSS I avoid if at all possible.

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