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Marques Brownlee, known as MKBHD, faced backlash over his new wallpaper app, Panels, due to its high subscription cost ($49.99/year) and concerns over excessive data permissions.

Brownlee acknowledged user feedback, promising to adjust ad frequency for free users and address privacy concerns, clarifying that the app's data disclosures were broader than intended.

The app, which offers curated wallpapers and shares profits with artists, aims to improve over time, despite criticisms of its design and monetization approach.

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I feel this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but if you want unique wallpapers, consider paying an actual artist, instead of an influencer

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If I want a unique wallpaper I go on a walk in the great outdoors and take a picture

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

See these people as entertainment and not as reviewers, influencers. They are not more than entertainment companies.

Secondly, I don't see him as the dev of the app. I don't know which company dev it and he put his name on it. This brings us to the cut. 50 artist, 25 him, 25 dev company. Without him, the dev company has no chance.

If I'm looking my definition, it looks like a scam.

[–] WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Marques Brownlee: "Don't pay for what something will be, pay for what it is now" and "I don't review what will be, but what a product is now"

Also Marques Brownlee: "Pay the subscription fee now for the unnamed unspecified features this will have other than just wallpapers now to fund future development"

Who knew the next company he would "kill" would be his own. The only way to find his app on Android is to use the link from his site because of the generic name.

BTW Wallpaper Engine, which has an android app, is currently $5 Canadian, and I am told with Proton can also work on Linux PC's and has an huge amount of modifiable wallpapers.

Regarding Wallpaper Engine on KDE Plasma, since I switched to Linux a few days ago: here is the repo for the one KDE Wallpaper Plugin i found that worked fine on Nobara. Subscribe to the Wallpapers in Steam, point the plugin to the steam library, done. just know that there are some wallpapers not working yet, which makes plasmashell crash, but no biggie, change the wallpaper and restart plasmashell again.

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[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

No sane individual is going to pay for a subscription for phone backgrounds.

That is absolutely a stupid business idea and the people who came up with it should be publicly shamed.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember when people paid for ringtones? Doesn't mean it isn't stupid, especially as a subscription, but people do stupid things and other people take advantage.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And Ringback tones too. For when people called you, so they could listen to your favorite song instead of the ring of the phone while waiting for you to pick up.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I forgot about that! And most songs sound like ass when you hear it over a phone, especially before whatever they did in the last decade to make voice calls more clear

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 1 points 1 month ago

Back in the day people paid for ringtones, wallpapers, etc. Dumbest thing ever were 'ringbacks' where you paid to have a song or something play when people called you. So the people buying it didn't even hear it, they just forced other people to listen to a shitty low fidelity garbled mess of a song they liked while you waited for them to pick up the phone.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I've not looked into it, but it's probably pitched as a feel-good way of supporting artists.

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[–] NebGilum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This guy is no different than every other smarmy "Tech Reviewer" on YT. His reviews have been borderline useless for the last few years. This is just the next logical step that these guys take - hitch themselves onto a tech accessory or app and charge their followers predatory prices - fuck this guy.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's kind of a paradox when you think about it. Good reviewers are often just regular people with a passion for tech but as they become more popular and prolific they become part of the industry itself. Once that happens even if they try to stay objective and critical their perspective is so different from regular people that reviews are just part of the sales and marketing strategy rather than pro tips from an enthusiast.

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[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why the internet is unable to say "I don't like this app, so I won't pay for it" rather than "I don't like this app, so you're a bad person". Hundreds of people raging over and catastrophising something they never bought or even heard of until now.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (29 children)

$50 a year for wallpapers or I could go to wallhaven and get millions for free?

Also you’ll find many of my submissions on wallhaven, created with passion and shared for free, for anyone thinking about moaning about “artists need to make everything a commercial venture that brings them money”.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

This. Hell you can generate literally endless wallpapers for free.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Apparently one of the wallpapers is just solid orange. It's called "Orange", is labeled as "abstract", and is labeled with a copyright.

It's a solid orange rectangle.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Anish Kapoor strikes again

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The artist spent a lot of time on that!

[–] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Months to get that perfect shade of orange.

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[–] franiis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think I would like the idea (and at first this my understanding) if you could buy one wallpaper for $1 (or a pack of few for $3) and the 70-90% would go to the artist. Also app would have to limit tracking to just some basic stuff. I know you can get wallpapers free, but supporting something that looks great on your screen would be a nice option.

Of course subscription service for this is mad.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Marques has a decent chunk of his fan base that's...kinda rich? That's the only thing that can explain why he reviews supercars and expects people to use their phone without a case. So if he's directing some of that fan base's money toward artists, I'm all for it, assuming the profit sharing is reasonable (and I have no reason to believe it's not).

I mean, I'm not going to pay that sort of money on a wallpaper (I almost always use photos of family or friends anyway). But if the people who buy it like it, and the people who sell art for it are treated well, you go MKBHD.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I started to get worked up but then i remembered I don't particularly care. He's in it to make bank, not necessarily sell you a quality product. If he were, he wouldn't be selling a wallpaper app.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hear you, but I hear the money counter MORE

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[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It costs $49.99 per year (or $11.99 per month)

Why in the hell does the monthly price end with you paying 280% more than the yearly. That is such an absurd discount I don't even know why someone would pay at all for this app but more so I want to understand where the price justification is and who came up with this plan.

To be clear I support artists and more than welcome a platform for them to share and sell art if they wish... I don't get why it needs to be a subscription service and I don't see how such inflated charges are going to help artists as it'll just discourage large numbers of people wanting to support them.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-decision-lab/201109/product-pricing-and-framing-when-are-we-likely-pay-more

Short version: there’s an $80 bread maker with 5 features, a $120 bread maker with 12 features, and a $475 bread maker with 14 features.

The $475 bread maker only exists to make the $120 version look like a bargain.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Also the nature of a wallpaper app, maybe you just want to plop in get a wallpaper and scamper off into the sunset.

Matter of fact for the $50 a year price I could sign back up for a month twice a year and still come out on top.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I want to understand where the price justification is

The justification is that people should be yearly subscribers when they can more easily forget to cancel it.

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