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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fact that they can do expensive, on-the-fly video processing like this, and still make a profit, proves that video hosting costs are not an insurmountable barrier for the open-source internet. We need to make hardware accelerated peertube ubiquitous, and get creators to move over.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Processing isn't the expensive part. It's bandwidth. Transferring that much data gets expensive.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And our own bandwidth, too. Google isn't paying my Internet bill. Hope the rest of my content creators switch soon, otherwise I'll miss them.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

The arms race continues.

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

[Enshittification intensifies]

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[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imma start subscribing to the RSS feeds of torrents made for specific channels before i watch ads.

If youtube wants to make their website so hostile its easier to get better versions of youtube videos without YouTube then those games will be played.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

RSS feed -> yt-dlp script -> auto queue the folder into the player of your choice. Hmm...

(Edit: Though that may not actually work considering this is apparently fully server side. Gonna have to get clever...)

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

(Edit: Though that may not actually work considering this is apparently fully server side. Gonna have to get clever…)

Next step is machine learning to recognize ads and cut them out automatically hah.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't need to go that far, i think. If you had your extension hash some piece of each keyframe (basically: tokenize some IDs for each keyframe) and submit them to a database you could then see which parts were shown to everyone vs only to some people and only display those. Basically similar to how sponsorblock crowd sources its sponsor segment detection but automated. Some people would see the ads but then you'd know what the og video was unless it gets edited.

This is assuming they're not reencoding the video for each advertisement, which they probably aren't. If they are it probably gets easier, actually. Sponsorblock could do that.

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[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

MythTV solved this long ago. We already have the tech to bypass this shit.

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[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (15 children)

If YouTube offered premium without music for a discounted price I'd probably be willing to pay for it. But I just want no ads, not a bunch of bundled stuff.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I get what you’re saying, but YouTube music is pretty much just a different front end for the normal site.

Sure, it does some filtering to attempt to be music only (though I’ve seen non music stuff sneak in before) but in the end, you get pretty much the same core experience if you open up the YouTube app and start “watching” a song (with premium for the background play capability).

I’d be willing to bet this is why they won’t go the route you’re talking about.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 months ago

now I need to move away from Telegram & YouTube at the same time.. oef

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Wouldn't that technology make them easy to rewind forward?

[–] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

This comment confuses me

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[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well it sounds more scary than it realistically will be.

YouTube must pass to the player the metadata of where the ads start/end. Why? Because they need to be unskippable/unseekable/etc. If the metadata is there it is possible to force the seek 🤷‍♂️

Just matter of time

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Why would that be the case? The player can simply be locked into ad mode till it gets the cue from the server all of the ads have been streamed. Only then will the player unlock. When watching what amounts to a video stream, this doesn't have to be handled clientside.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Seeing as these ads will be targeted and of varying length, I wonder if a SponsorBlock-like extension with the ability to accept training data from users to help identify ads.

The Plex server application has a feature which scrubs videos and identifies intros so you can skip them like you can on Netflix. Wouldn’t it be sort of like that?

Seems like a good use of AI/ML.

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