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Police have shot and killed a polar bear that came ashore in northwestern Iceland, the first sighting of a polar bear there since 2016. It might have hitched a ride from Greenland on a floating iceberg.

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[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 119 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (4 children)

humans do not deserve animals

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 83 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Here in the states, we shot a gorilla once.

It, uh, . . . It didn’t go very well for a long time after that.

Personally I’d recommend some other approach. But that’s just me.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think there's a slight difference in a captive gorilla and wild polar bear.

I mean (unrelated but still) I think a polar bear could 1v1 a gorilla. Meaning I think a polar bear is more dangerous. Especially a hungry one, that's able to just walk into a population center.

I too wish they could've saved the bear, but I don't think people are gonna complain about this as much as with Harambe (RIP)

Like even if anaesthesia was an option, they'd still have had to give it a ride back, or build it a home. And building zoos just isn't too popular nowadays imo.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Polar bears are three times the size and weight of a silverback. They could likely prevail in a 1v2 or 1v3. 1v4 would be a fair fight.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean, 1v1 is easy, 1v2 maybe even, but if there's a group of silverbacks, what with being somewhat smart and sturdy themselves, I think they could occasionally even get a win.

I've never seen a gorilla irl, but I've seen a taxidermied polar bear, and holy fuck those things are big. But then I think of just how versatile opposable thumbs are and of how insanely thick gorilla muscles are.

I'm marking this as a thing I'd like to know but probably never will, what with the moral implications of setting animals on each other in blood sports.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gorillas don't have much for protection. The bear has 4" of fat "armor". The gorillas won't be able to bite or tear flesh.

My thinking is that if the bear is able to grab one of the gorillas, it will be disabled pretty much instantly. Unless the remaining gorilla(s) can press their momentary advantage while the bear is distracted, it's just going to rip them apart one by one.

1v4, they might have enough clout to keep the bear immobilized long enough to kill it.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gorillas don't have much for protection. The bear has 4" of fat "armor". The gorillas won't be able to bite or tear flesh.

Oh yeah this is very true. But like several of them manhandling one, idk. Might be out of their capacity for coordination, though.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, with adequate coordination, the gorillas should prevail in a 1v3. But I think they tend to fight more like individuals than as a pack.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm just saying that the romans stopped putting bears into fights in the colloseum because it got boring - the bears qust wrecked everything else the romans could get their hands on.

Or so I've heard, I'm not a historian.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I believe this.

And they didn't even have polar bears afaik.

Romans should've put Silverfang in the ring.

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The irony of an American lecturing another country on finding an alternative to shooting.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You don’t want to hear from the best?

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[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I still think about that terrible day. once harambe passed, the world fell apart.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 45 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This is going to be increasing in the coming years. The ice is melting, and they will be forced onto land to look for food.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That's a lot of justification for killing something that can go fishing for food.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 126 points 2 months ago (8 children)

polar bears will absolutely hunt humans for food without a second thought. And you will not be able to outrun them or scare them away.

This one came quite close to homes, which is a reason for almost all towns with polar bears in the area to shoot them.

That this bear was the first in quite a while is a sad thing, but it's understandable that the town doesn't want a bear mauling people for a snack

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (6 children)

If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lie down. If it's white, good night.

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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This reads like it's justified.

We destroy their habitats so they need to come to us to survive only to get killed by us.

Sounds like we are just bad guys.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (68 children)

Except that's not how Polar Bears prefer to hunt. They prefer to hunt by holes over pack ice, where they wait for animals like seals to surface for air. When there's no pack ice, which is what is happening thanks to global warming, they hunt for whatever they can on land. And if that land is inhabited by humans, that means humans.

I would say the potential to kill and eat humans, including infants, is excellent justification.

Does it suck that this is our fault to begin with? Absolutely. That doesn't mean that human lives should be put at risk as well.

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[–] badlilbean@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago
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