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[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 216 points 2 months ago (8 children)

A lot of the actual, serious ones that knew what they were doing got caught. Some went to lulsec to be jerks with no agenda and were caught by the Feds. All that was left were script kiddies that downloaded the Low Orbit Ion Cannon and used scripts they find online. Then they left or were overtaken by alt right idiots.

The original Anonymous are in their 30s and 40s by now. Everyone ages out.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 211 points 2 months ago (2 children)

90s script kiddie here - a bunch of the shit you can do as a minor with low/no consequences becomes SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS as an adult with assets. It's just not worth the risk to keep dicking around with things that might land you in prison or cost you everything you have.

[–] NerfHerder@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago

This is the truest answer thus far.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The delicious irony is that they now get to live in the world they helped create.

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[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 37 points 2 months ago

I think the serious ones that didn’t get caught are now working in red team penetration testing, which is an industry that’s been growing exponentially since the years Anonymous did a lot of their big stuff

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Omg LOIC... I was trying to think of that name a few weeks ago and just couldn't remember. That was fun.

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[–] elude@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where did they get the name LOIC from in the first place?

The only place I am aware of, that uses this name, was the Unreal Tournament 2004.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

I think you've found your answer.

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[–] Muffi@programming.dev 108 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Angry and nihilistic teenagers used to have tech skills and laptops. Now they have iPads and TikTok.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wonder how true that is. Curious to know

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 39 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I actually teach teenagers programming and 3D modelling. The past 5 years has been the first decline in tech literacy I've ever experienced between generations. My personal theory is that only the gamers actually have computers at home now. Everyone else only use their smartphones, and that only gives a negligible increase in tech literacy compared to using a computer.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, computers in their various forms are now so user friendly (and often locked down, because fuck you) that you don't learn much using them. The golden age for learning tech on the fly seems to have been 1990-2010 or so, because computers were both accessible and still had exposed inner logic.

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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We've drastically simplified and made tech accessible to everyone with a smartphone, you no longer need computer skills to get on the internet to shop or participate in social activities. Kids use apps' platforms for the things we had to build and host ourselves 20y ago.

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[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

As a angry, nihilistic teenager: very fucking true. I am literally the only techy guy in my posh bullshit private international school (in Europe so affordable). The only other dude who uses Linux (I'm using that as a bare minimum for "techy") isn't into programming or reverse engineering shit even remotely. I'm all alone (apart from all my non-technical friends). I suppose that's where the nihilism comes from...

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] occultist8128@infosec.pub 6 points 2 months ago

how is this so true lol

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They fizzled out, members probably moved on to various other groups and projects, while the rest simply went on with their lives. A danger of being decentralized is losing all of your momentum.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A danger of being decentralized is losing all of your momentum.

fediverse growth nervously sweats

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The other commenter is more right, anyway. A lot of the dudes got arrested. I think the chances of that are low here, for now.

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[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not gonna dig through their Twitter feed, but I saw someone a couple months ago ask them this exact question on one of their posts, and they wrote a pretty interesting response. They basically said, we're still here, trying to fuck the system up, but, with all the information we've provided and ported out there to the world, y'all haven't done dick with it. Laws haven't been passed, politicians haven't been ousted, corporations are still abusing the systems. So they were basically saying, what good is them leaking and hacking if the public doesn't take a more activist approach towards change themselves and hold the people they expose accountable.

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well if I knew how to take down sites and child porn site I totally would. Just don't know what to study and probably don't want to be another computer cracker using programs found online.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you're serious, study cyber security to start.

Then move towards devops.

Worse case scenario, you'll end up in a 6-figure job making complaints into the void as you write bash scripts to speed up a pipeline by 0.1 second.

Best case scenario, you take down a massive criminal ring that sprouts back up like a weed a few days later.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hacking got harder, and the enforced penalties for getting caught became a lot more severe (in the west at least). This meant that most hackers aren't doing it for luls but for serious business.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

β€œThey” got over it, as most people do, and moved on. Remnants still remain, but they were unified due to a critical mass of dissent.

Don’t expect to see anything like it again until another critical inflection point. Just know that, if you do, shit’s prolly in a bad place…so…

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, things are pretty peachy in the world right now.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

That’s the spirit.

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[–] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anonymous basically became a US intelligence front around the Arab Spring.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

A meme that comes quickly, goes quickly.

It's not an actual organised group, if you didn't know. Anyone can hack something and then say "Done by Anonymous".

[–] Nytefyre@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 2 months ago

And anyone that performs any successful hack, can also declare themselves as part of Anonymous.

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[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shutting down porn sites? Is that a thing they wanted to achieve? Like free video sites like PH or production companies like Brazzers?

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I ment to type child porn sites.-

[–] Nytefyre@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can edit the main post you know.

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[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)
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[–] Farmer_Heck@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago

all of the people who were part of Anonymous who were worth a damn at hacking back in the day work for the state department now. The movement could very likely have been a psyop, given how many high-level hackers from that era there are on government payroll.

I stand in solidarity with the gay furry hackers.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

they basically got put out of business by cloudflare

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[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 14 points 2 months ago

Curious to know what answers you were looking for here OP. What makes you think they aren't doing these things but stopped identifying themselves as such? Also some dialogue is required about the myriad of things 'Anonymous' took responsibility for but were never adequately confirmed as objectively true--and more importantly, what is accomplished with this last feat? I believe the answer you seek lies in these depths

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 13 points 2 months ago

it's also important to keep in mind that the cybersecurity field has adbanced tremendously, with cloidfare, EDRs, and in general it is now way harder to do anything anonymously without getting caught, quickly. This also males the field of hacking way more difficult to get in, which combined with reduced attention span of younger generations probably means there's not that many bored teens willing to put the time in, and as an adult you have way much more to loose, so for hose who had the skills it would be a lot greater risk.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They (I use that term to mean the average 4channer) were co-opted by alt right propaganda.

Most neckbeard, incel, Andrew Tate followers are what Anon originally was. We just lied to ourselves that it wasn't really racist and that we were fighting a good fight.

Now, its a bunch of sad lonely people that found acceptance in intolerance and hatred.

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well that is kind of depressing.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

I don't think people who refer to "Anonymous" are referring to "the average 4channer".

[–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I remember when the owner left and it was all bots overnight

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[–] Nytefyre@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 2 months ago

I think their direction has gone astray mixed with losing general interest mixed with aging mixed with getting caught. I think Anonymous now has just turned into a parody of itself thanks for 4chan (yeah I know it was born there) who turned it into a symbol of just shitposting trolling than doing the right things.

They used to have been prominent during the days when SOPA and PIPA had been brought up. Since then, activity has dwindled.

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