I tend to browse /All and by New on Lemmy. I went to respond on a thread on !vegan@lemmy.world to thank someone for a recipe that looked good, and found out I had been banned.

Odd, considering I hadn't posted to that sub at any point in the past. I checked the modlog to find that "Mod" had banned a bunch of people citing "Rule 5."

Their Rule 5 states: Bad-faith carnist rhetoric & anti-veganism are not allowed, as this is not a space to debate the merits of veganism. Anyone is welcome here, however, and so good-faith efforts to ask questions about veganism may be given their own weekly stickied post in the future (see current stickied discussion).

I (and hundreds of others) seemingly broke rule 5 of this community without ever posting there. What is going on?

And my apologies if this isn't the place for this, but I had no idea where else to post the question.

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[–] red@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The bad: simply downvoting a meme gets you banned

The good: You didn't have to open your apps filter settings to stop seeing the absurd shit they post

Funnily enough, their ban spree is self censoring and will end up creating an echo chamber nobody will see.

I say, tofu and let tofuck it up.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

On the instance lemmy.world
The knickers of an admin had curled.
Suggestions of a vegan cat:
Red faced with ears of steam
He banned their moderation team.
Over something dramatic like that.

An admin decree was made:
A repeat was forbade.
"But that wasn't enough,"
Some moderators said with a huff.
Not wanting to be persecuted,
By plebians with vegan-hate rooted
They would make the place tamer
By turning it into an echo chamber

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 months ago

They ban anyone that doesn’t agree with their ideology. Regardless how respectful you are about it.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think I have been banned there but now that I am posting this.... I wonder how many of the people chatting here are going to get banned?

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Probably all.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only if you get downvoted, even if only once (no, I'm seriously not kidding - the post I linked in my other comment admits that is how that particular bot works).

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was browsing scaled and found a post that was dumb from that community and downvoted it. It only had a 1 score, so I took it to 0

I wonder if that will do it

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If the mods are using one of those bots, then I think it's downvotes that you receive, not those that you offer. Reading that post, these people seem absolutely okay with even the most rushed of judgements, it's only the popularity contest's results inside what will fast become an echo chamber that seems to matter.

On the other hand, mods have also been known to mass-ban anyone who downvotes them personally, so maybe? Or perhaps they modified the Santa bot (I'm seriously not making that name up!!!:-P) to ban anyone who has ever downvoted anyone on any post (or certain posts that they liked) within that community. In a sense, it's their community so they can do as they please, but also... dayum.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's ridiculous to look at the modlog and see it in real time

It's like they are inviting us to find out what will trigger it haha

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 2 months ago

In case the author of that bot ever reads this, can you just perma-ban me from any community that you are associated with? I don't want to be constantly dropping in and out of all sorts of communities I've literally never heard of based on one comment here or there that I made, or didn't make, or whatever. And I'd like to preserve the ability of the modlog to actually be functional, e.g. it currently shows (on my instance) that I've never been banned from any community ever, though a few extra entries in it won't be too damaging.

To everyone else, it sure would be nice if such practices were opt-in rather than have to go to great lengths (like DM a mod) to be able to opt-out. e.g., why not have an application process for people who want to subscribe, and then kick them out whenever they don't meet the criteria? This mass-banning of a significant fraction of the entire Fediverse (they admit that at one point they banned 3%, and iirc this was before more than doubling, almost tripling the score threshold to avoid that fate) just screams of self-important leeches who care about avoiding doing any manual efforts to moderate their community, at the expense of everyone else that they have decided to involve. Notably unwillingly bc nobody here seems to have offered CONSENT to be part of these experiments in artificial unintelligence.

If Trump was on Lemmy, this is exactly the type of thing he'd do. First divide everyone up into who is loyal to his brand or not, and second deny anyone the right to speak who does not fall into the former category. Which is... urg, fine, but don't pollute my ability to read my own modlog for the entire Fediverse in the process!!

[–] Atlas_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you want to build an echo chamber? This is how you build an echo chamber.

(I find this entirely unsurprising. I think they do want to build an echo chamber.)

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah.

I left beehaw because they seem determined to build a echo chamber too

A minority literally accused of me of wanting to kill all of them simply because I only half agreed with a post.

And then a admin overlooked that, and accused me of causing a fight in a "safe space" which seems to be just another term for echo chamber

I have friends from that minority 😂

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

https://lemmy.world/post/19731457

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm moderately offended that I haven't been banned yet. It's giving "the last one picked for kickball" vibes. I want to speak to the fucking manager of c/vegan immediately!

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 2 months ago

[–] zoostation@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This server is fucked

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[–] Bitswap@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I don't understand why most people even care. They would have never know this community existed except for for this post.

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