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[–] ochi_chernye@startrek.website 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Every single article about "gen x" this or "gen z" that is 100% bullshit. Stop reposting this garbage.

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[–] bebabalula@feddit.dk 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

There’s a common misconception among boomers and gen x that “digital natives” like gen z have a god-given tech proficiency. However, there’s nothing about being born with a smartphone in your hand that teaches you anything about tech.

It’s not like people are getting better at changing oil as car ownership becomes more common, right?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Oh, I remember my childhood and how everybody (and sadly myself) considered us so knowledgeable because we sit chatting via ICQ, writing stupid shit in forum text RPGs, playing WarCraft III, Perfect World, IL2, KotOR and X-Wing Alliance all day.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah, fair point. My first computer was a Tandy TRS80, followed by a ZX81. You pretty much had to learn BASIC to get them to do anything at all.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Gen X and older witnessed a young generation born into kind of working, but kind of janky technology. They saw kids figure out obscure VCR programming interfaces that let the kids record something they wanted, but only by navigating very obtuse interface rendered exclusively with 7 segment displays with a few extra static indicators. A teenager playing that new DOS game, but first they had to struggle with getting the conventional memory, upper memory, EMS/XMS and just the right set of TSRs running, involving mucking about with menu driven config.sys/autoexec.bat tailored for their use cases. Consumer electronics and computers of the time demanded a steep learning curve, but they could still do magic, leading to the trope in the 80s and 90s media of tech wonder kids doing awesome stuff way better than the adults. Even if you have a super advanced submarine and very smart people, you needed your teenager computer kid to outclass everyone.

By now, we've made high res touch screens that can be embedded in everything for cheap, and embedded systems that would be the envy of a pretty high end desktop from the year 2000, which was capable of running more friendly operating environments. The rather open ended internet has largely baked in how the participants get to play. The most common devices lock down what the user can do, because the user can't be trusted not to break themselves with malware.

The end result is that we may have the same proportion of people with the deep technical skills, but a lot of people are now unimpressed. In the mid 90s, less than 1 percent of the population had direct internet experience, and by 2008, 25% had that experience. So even if you still have 1% of really tech savvy people, there's over 24x as many non savvy people that don't need to marvel at those savvy people because they are getting about what they want out of it.

[–] Branquinho@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think "digital naive" is a better phrase than "digital native". They are born with computers all around them. But most adults forget to / are not able to educate them about technology and their implications.

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[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

Don't you love throwing a whole bunch of people with different backgrounds into one bucket? 🙄

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Guess that means I'm uncle tech support forever

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

that's because they're not using computers or doing work

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

or doing work

Did you just pull a "kids these days don't want to work anymore"?

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[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Gen X here. I've got an average 123 WPM on typeracer, which puts me in the 99,8th percentile.

I started looking at the screen instead of the keyboard early on. There were touch typing classes as an option around 8th grade, I think, but it was literally just having a map of which fingers go where and typing text focusing on using the right fingers. I didn't take one, but I think I'm using the right fingers for 80% of the keys. I'm moving my hands back and forth a bit to let my dominant fingers do the work.

I started playing MUDs in 1997 at age 13, and building up that muscle memory for every combination of two- or three letter commands probably did more than I'd care to admit. I still miss the responsiveness of a proper DOS prompt, or Linux tty.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Which year is the dividing line for Gen X and Millennials?

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess I might be a millennial or Xennial, then.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was a terrible typer as a kid, two finger hunt and pecker. Got a job that necessitated fast typing while listening or reading. I learned how to touch type, or fake it enough, really quick. Humans are adaptable, that’s why we are everywhere, they just need the motivation to learn the skill.

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