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[–] billbennett@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago

I've spent time with an AI laptop the past couple of weeks and 'overinflated' seems a generous description of where end user AI is today.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Personally I can't wait for a few good bankruptcies so I can pick up a couple of high end data centre GPUs for cents on the dollar

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

FMO is the best explanation of this psychosis and then of course denial by people who became heavily invested in it. Stuff like LLMs or ConvNets (and the likes) can already be used to do some pretty amazing stuff that we could not do a decade ago. I am also not against exploring and pushing the boundaries, but when you explore a boundary while pretending like you have already crossed it, that is how you get bubbles. And this again all boils down to appeasing some cancerous billionaire shareholders so they funnel down some money to your pockets.

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[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's like the least popular opinion I have here on Lemmy, but I assure you, this is the begining.

Yes, we'll see a dotcom style bust. But it's not like the world today wasn't literally invented in that time. Do you remember where image generation was 3 years ago? It was a complete joke compared to a year ago, and today, fuck no one here would know.

When code generation goes through that same cycle, you can put out an idea in plain language, and get back code that just "does" it.

I have no idea what that means for the future of my humanity.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

you can put out an idea in plain language, and get back code that just “does” it

No you can't. Simplifying it grossly:

They can't do the most low-level, dumbest detail, splitting hairs, "there's no spoon", "this is just correct no matter how much you blabber in the opposite direction, this is just wrong no matter how much you blabber to support it" kind of solutions.

And that happens to be main requirement that makes a task worth software developer's time.

We need software developers to write computer programs, because "a general idea" even in a formalized language is not sufficient, you need to address details of actual reality. That is the bottleneck.

That technology widens the passage in the places which were not the bottleneck in the first place.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I think you live in a nonsense world. I literally use it everyday and yes, sometimes it's shit and it's bad at anything that even requires a modicum of creativity. But 90% of shit doesn't require a modicum of creativity. And my point isn't about where we're at, it's about how far the same tech progressed on another domain adjacent task in three years.

Lemmy has a "dismiss AI" fetish and does so at its own peril.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Are you a software developer? Or a hardware engineer? EDIT: Or anyone credible in evaluating my nonsense world against yours?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Machine learning scientist.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

So close, but not there.

OK, you'll know that I'm right when you somewhat expand your expertise to neighboring areas. Should happen naturally.

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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And I wouldn't know where to start using it. My problems are often of the "integrate two badly documented company-internal APIs" variety. LLMs can't do shit about that; they weren't trained for it.

They're nice for basic rote work but that's often not what you deal with in a mature codebase.

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

they're pretty good, and the faults they have are improving steadily. I dont think we're hitting a ceiling yet, and I shudder to think where they'll be in 5 years.

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[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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