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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 months ago (11 children)

My only real hope out of this is that that copilot button on keyboards becomes the 486 turbo button of our time.

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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A.I., Assumed Intelligence

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

More like PISS, a Plagiarized Information Synthesis System

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Welp, it was 'fun' while it lasted. Time for everyone to adjust their expectations to much more humble levels than was promised and move on to the next sceme. After Metaverse, NFTs and 'Don't become a programmer, AI will still your job literally next week!11', I'm eager to see what they come up with next. And with eager I mean I'm tired. I'm really tired and hope the economy just takes a damn break from breaking things.

[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I just hope I can buy a graphics card without having to sell organs some time in the next two years.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't count on it. It turns out that the sort of stuff that graphics cards do is good for lots of things, it was crypto, then AI and I'm sure whatever the next fad is will require a GPU to run huge calculations.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My RX 580 has been working just fine since I bought it used. I've not been able to justify buying a new (used) one. If you have one that works, why not just stick with it until the market gets flooded with used ones?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

I'd love an upgrade for my 2080 TI, really wish Nvidia didn't piss off EVGA into leaving the GPU business...

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

But if it doesn't disrupt it isn't worth it!

/s

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Thank fucking god.

I got sick of the overhyped tech bros pumping AI into everything with no understanding of it....

But then I got way more sick of everyone else thinking they're clowning on AI when in reality they're just demonstrating an equal sized misunderstanding of the technology in a snarky pessimistic format.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As I job-hunt, every job listed over the past year has been "AI-drive [something]" and I'm really hoping that trend subsides.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"This is an mid level position requiring at least 7 years experience developing LLMs." -Every software engineer job out there.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm a data engineer and I get that there's a lot of potential in analytics with AI, but you don't need to hire a data engineer with LLM experience for aggregating payroll data.

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[–] figjam@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago

That was cloud 7 years ago and blockchain 4

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I’m more annoyed that Nvidia is looked at like some sort of brilliant strategist. It’s a GPU company that was lucky enough to be around when two new massive industries found an alternative use for graphics hardware.

They happened to be making pick axes in California right before some prospectors found gold.

And they don’t even really make pick axes, TSMC does. They just design them.

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They didn't just "happen to be around". They created the entire ecosystem around machine learning while AMD just twiddled their thumbs. There is a reason why no one is buying AMD cards to run AI workloads.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just praying people will fucking quit it with the worries that we're about to get SKYNET or HAL when binary computing would inherently be incapable of recreating the fast pattern recognition required to replicate or outpace human intelligence.

Moore's law is about similar computing power, which is a measure of hardware performance, not of the software you can run on it.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, they also kept telling investors all they need to simulate a human brain was to simulate the amount of neurons in a human brain...

The stupidly rich loved that, because they want computer backups for "immortality". And they'd dump billions of dollars into making that happen

About two months ago tho, we found out that the brain uses microtubules in the brain to put tryptophan into super position, and it can maintain that for like a crazy amount of time, like longer than we can do in a lab.

The only argument against a quantum component for human consciousness, was people thought there was no way to have even just get regular quantum entanglement in a human brain.

We'll be lucky to be able to simulate that stuff in 50 years, but it's probably going to be even longer.

Every billionaire who wanted to "live forever" this way, just got aged out. So they'll throw their money somewhere else now.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to follow the Penrose stuff and was pretty excited about QM as an explanation of consciousness. If this is the kind of work they're reaching at though. This is pretty sad. It's not even anything. Sometimes you need to go with your gut, and my gut is telling me that if this is all the QM people have, consciousness is probably best explained by complexity.

https://ask.metafilter.com/380238/Is-this-paper-on-quantum-propeties-of-the-brain-bad-science-or-not

Completely off topic from ai, but got me curious about brain quantum and found this discussion. Either way, AI still sucks shit and is just a shortcut for stealing.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a social media comment from some Ask Yahoo knockoff...

Like, this isn't something no one is talking about, you don't have to solely learn about that from unpopular social media sites (including my comment).

I don't usually like linking videos, but I'm feeling like that might work better here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa2Kpkksf3k

But that PBS video gives a really good background and then talks about the recent discovery.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

some Ask Yahoo knockoff...

AskMeFi predated Yahoo Answers by several years (and is several orders of magnitude better than it ever was).

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And that linked accounts last comment was advocating for Biden to stage a pre-emptive coup before this election...

https://www.metafilter.com/activity/306302/comments/mefi/

It doesn't matter if it was created before Ask Yahoo or if it's older.

It's random people making random social media comments, sometimes stupid people make the rare comment that sounds like they know what they're talking about. And I already agreed no one had to take my word on it either.

But that PBS video does a really fucking good job explaining it.

Cuz if I can't explain to you why a random social media comment isn't a good source, I'm sure as shit not going to be able to explain anything like Penrose's theory on consciousness to you.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if it was created before Ask Yahoo or if it's older.

It does if you're calling it a "knockoff" of a lower-quality site that was created years later, which was what I was responding to.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Great.

So the social media site is older than I thought, and the person who made the comment on that site is a lot stupider than it seemed.

Like, Facebooks been around for about 20 years. Would you take a link to a Facebook comment over PBS?

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

My man, I said nothing about the science or the validity of that comment, just that it's wrong to call Ask MetaFilter "some Ask Yahoo knockoff". If you want to get het up about an argument I never made, you do you.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I've noticed people have been talking less and less about AI lately, particularly online and in the media, and absolutely nobody has been talking about it in real life.

The novelty has well and truly worn off, and most people are sick of hearing about it.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

The hype is still percolating, at least among the people I work with and at the companies of people I know. Microsoft pushing Copilot everywhere makes it inescapable to some extent in many environments, there's people out there who have somehow only vaguely heard of ChatGPT and are now encountering LLMs for the first time at work and starting the hype cycle fresh.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It’s like 3D TVs, for a lot of consumer applications tbh

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[–] 4vgj0e@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I find it insane when "tech bros" and AI researchers at major tech companies try to justify the wasting of resources (like water and electricity) in order to achieve "AGI" or whatever the fuck that means in their wildest fantasies.

These companies have no accountability for the shit that they do and consistently ignore all the consequences their actions will cause for years down the road.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's research. Most of it never pans out, so a lot of it is "wasteful". But if we didn't experiment, we wouldn't find the things that do work.

[–] 4vgj0e@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but these researchers/scientists should be more mindful about the resources they use up in order to generate the computational power necessary to carry out their experiments. AI is good when it gets utilized to achieve a specific task, but funneling a lot of money and research towards general purpose AI just seems wasteful.

[–] AssaultPepper@monero.town 0 points 2 months ago

I mean general purpose AI doesn't cap out at human intelligence, of which you could utilize to come up with ideas for better resource management.

Could also be a huge waste but the potential is there... potentially.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Most of the entire AI economy isn't even research. It's just grift. Slapping a label on ChatGPT and saying you're an AI company. It's hustlers trying to make a quick buck from easy venture capital money.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Shed a tear, if you wish, for Nvidia founder and Chief Executive Jenson Huang, whose fortune (on paper) fell by almost $10 billion that day.

Thanks, but I think I'll pass.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I’m sure he won’t mind. Worrying about that doesn’t sound like working.

I work from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to bed. I work seven days a week. When I'm not working, I'm thinking about working, and when I'm working, I'm working. I sit through movies, but I don't remember them because I'm thinking about work.

- Huang on his 14 hour workdays

It is one way to live.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That sounds like mental illness.

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[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I just want computer parts to stop being so expensive. Remember when gaming was cheap? Pepperidge farm remembers. You used to be able to build a relatively high end pc for less than the average dogshit Walmart laptop.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

To be honest right now is a relatively good time to build a PC, except for the GPU, which is heavily overpriced. I think if you are content with last gen AMD, this can also be turned to somewhat acceptable levels.

[–] LemmyBe@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Wether we like it or not AI is here to stay, and in 20-30 years, it’ll be as embedded in our lives as computers and smartphones are now.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Is there a "young man yells at clouds meme" here?

"Yes, you're very clever calling out the hype train. Oooh, what a smart boy you are!" Until the dust settles...

Lemmy sounds like my grandma in 1998, "Pushah. This 'internet' is just a fad.'"

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