The fediverse is seeing an uptick as well. Els enshitofication continues. Good for us I suppose.
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What are blueskys current userbase numbers, mastodons current userbase numbers, and are they federated with each other?
are they federated with each other?
no. there's a sort of a third party bridge, but it requires an account on one platform to follow a bot in order to show up on another, so if someone on Bluesky doesn't explicitly do it and you're using Mastodon, then you're not going to connect.
Bluesky: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats Mastodon: https://fedidb.org/software/mastodon
There isn’t a 1:1 comparison. But the closest comparison looks like Mastodon is on a bit of a decline at 800k MAU. Bluesky is roughly 400k daily likers.
Two competing federation standards. The VHS and Betamax, or Blu Ray and HD-DVD, of 2024.
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Didn't India just ban Twitter or something?
Edit: It was Brazil.
BJP would never as they’re fascists themselves.
Non-twitter is fine in any form. Real progress is gonna be going to Mastodon, although that's hamstrung by user-unfriendliness.
While I agree with you. I don't think it's user unfriendly I think of it as a normie blocker. That being said, bluesky is owning class social media, I expect the enshittification to start now that they have a million + users.
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Mastadon has definitely improved it's user onboarding process. When I first tried, and failed, to use it 3 years ago it was awful. Signing up a year ago was a painless process. It may not be fully ready for the mainstream just yet, but it's definitely getting there.
user-unfriendliness.
I can't really disagree with this, since I've personally seen folks make a casual attempt and bounce off Mastodon, and it comes up enough online that it feels like it has to be true, but at the same time I've got this reflexive skepticism since I'm an absolute idiot and managed to figure out how to have a good time on Mastodon and really enjoy it. (I signed up in the spring of 2023, though, so can't speak to earlier times.) I think I'm probably closer to the normies than the stereotypical tech-literate Mastodon person. So I really wonder what it is specifically that frustrates folks enough to just give up on Mastodon when I, an amiable doofus of the highest order, love it so much.
I have additional Thoughts on cultural issues that might disappoint people who were expecting Mastodon to replicate whatever specific era of pre-Musk Twitter they yearn for, but it can't *just *be that. There has to be some technical barrier a lot of folks are stumbling over, right?
I never used twitter anyway so idk I never got into Mastodon. Didn't help that the few people I thought to follow basically pulled the "yeah this is cool #fucktwitter buuuuuut everyone is still on Twitter okbaiiiiiii"
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I had originally been 100% against Bluesky because of Jack Dorsey, but when he got so steamed about them doing things like actual moderation and left entirely back to Twitter to pettily suck up to Musk, I really started feeling like maybe Bluesky might not be so bad after all.
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I'm sad that a lot of people couldn't perceive the mastodon in the room.
Wait people didn't join Mastodon as well? Just Bluesky?
That's actually a good question. Surely Mastodon and Lemmy instances should have also seen an uptick in registrations?
I saw some posts on Mastodon yesterday celebrating an influx of Brazilian signups, but it was pretty modest compared to the massive exodus to Bluesky. Which, honestly, seems about right and proportionate. (I love Mastodon, but it doesn't feel like a 1:1 replacement for Twitter the way Bluesky does.)
Mastodon isn't a straight replacement for twitter, bluesky is.
Why is that?
From what I can tell from within the Mastodon echo chamber: quote replies and moderation
Sure, but there are other ActivityPub protocol softwares that have quote replies and moderation, that aren’t Mastodon. I think the challenge is getting the average user to seek out an instance running one of those softwares and not just mastodon dot social.
Problem is there's no marketing money to make the better platforms more widely known because there's not as much monetization of the users to fund it.
I'm perfectly fine being part of a community not driven by capitalism. It means there's a lot less incentive to create spam bots. I also can't run my own BlueSky instance, but I can run Lemmy/Mastodon pretty easily, just like an email server.
Edit: I didn't realize BlueSky was also federated, but just using a different protocol. I don't think that was an option back when I set up lemmy.
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Mastodon is a bi replacement for twitter.
Finding the right mastodon instance was incredibly annoying. I use it, but barely. Most of the artists I follow are on Bluesky, anyway, which is a lot easier to use.
Mastodon allows you to transfer your followers when you migrate, so it's not a big deal if you change your mind about the first instance you had chosen.
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the last time I tried to make a mastodon account I had to type a paragraph about why i want an account and then wait for an email approval and I don't know what the hell happened because I forgot to look for the email and by now I don't give a shit
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I am fine with this.
Wow. Good for Bluesky.
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