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They need to finish Settings before doing that. Control Panel is almost always the easier way to accomplish things and still the only way to accomplish some IIRC.
And it doesn't take years to load, specially on older PCs
And you can have more than one instance open at a time, instead of having the sound page open and when you try to bring up bluetooth next to it it changes the first one instead.
This is so frustrating when trouble shooting - trying to re-find where that one settings page was because you opened another.
It's not a phone - it's a windowing desktop environment. Allow multiple instances!
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Settings in Windows 11 is close. I rarely find myself going to control panel when it was about 50/50 in Windows 10. Still more clicks than I would like but workable.
I had to do a lot of configuration work on Win10 computers lately. The MMC, Powershell, even Regedit are faster and more intuitive than Settings. It's fucking ridiculous.
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Oh no. They really want me swapping to Linux full time with this shit, ugh.
THIS was your tipping point. control panel removal.
LMAO
This isn't removal, is deprecation.
it’s a very good tipping point dude. settings is so complicated to navigate and is very slow. not to mention control panel still has more features than settings
That seems reasonable. Especially since there's no equivalent to the already half-assed solution that is the control panel on Linux.
OSX style settings menus are far better than either the travesty that is the win 10 settings or the aging and questionably designed control panel, especially when it's all tightly integrated with the OS and utilities, and that's present in every Linux DE under the sun.
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Have you used Settings?
I just hit the windows key and start typing what I want. I don't use settings as a menu option much.
Do it. I will too. I'll do a QEMU Vm for my windows needs. I'm done with their behavior.
Sure, once I decide on a more permanent distro. Manjaro was ok but I keep hearing bad things and it was a gaming partition, not an all purpose partition. I'm sure lurking in Linux communities will give me some ideas, though.
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What's stopping you?
Just get it over with.
The setup, mostly. I know I can VM my mandatory work programs, at least. Dual boot has been too frustrating since Windows won't play ball.
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Why do they hate their customers so much?
Can't wait for windows deprecating windows at this point
I've considered windows to be deprecated for over a decade.
I think they meant having actual window UI elements.
Everything fullscreen! Or force-tiled! Or else!
They tried that with Windows 8. It didn't go over very well.
You will have to take ncpa.cpl from my cold dead hands
Changing IP assignment in the modern settings app is straight up annoying
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On brand. Settings is like control panel but dumber.
I love how in settings all the different miuse options are spread out in different places!
Want to change mouse speed, cursor size, and color? We are going on an adventure!
I bet AI would be helpful here!!
There a lot of non AI implementations that would be more reliably logical, like presenting options in multiple groups instead of only having a single location buried in submenus.
Like mouse color and size could be in an appearence AND in a general mouse settings that includes mouse appearance and behavior. They could design it so the setting itself is self contained, so it can behave the same way no matter how it is grouped for presentation.
I would expect AI to make up illogical groupings, because it doesn't understand context.
I believe they were joking since Microsoft is pushing AI into everything these days.
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"I'm New Clippy. I'm here to help you, like it or not!"
Hey, Clippy! Change the settings so that I can view hidden files . Clippy: Ok. Shutting down the nuclear reactor.
Not great, not terrible...
But it was, in fact, terrible, very terrible indeed
Not great, not terrible...
I send the gif of that scene at least once a week at work over teams
Even more frustrating is that different releases and builds recategorize where certain settings are entirely. To the point where search is the only reliable way of knowing for sure you'll get to the right place. They haven't changed things too drastically recently but they kept moving shit around in Win10 throughout its lifetime.
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The only benefit is more tightly integrated Powershell commands for some of them... but even that is still lacking in a lot of areas.
They just have to rename, move, and otherwise obfuscate shit. Always in the general direction of worse.
The thing that bugs me the most about Settings is the amount of wasted white space on every page. You have to do so much scrolling and clicking through tabs just to find various options. By comparison the dialogue boxes of the Control Panel apps are compact and concise. Every time I have to scroll down for something in Settings, I wonder why there's so much empty space padding around everything.
You'd think a multi billion dollar corporation could afford a decent UI designer or two.
They could, but as with Google, the middle managers have to justify their existence somehow.
UI designers have had a war on information density for a loooooong time.
UI designers are paid off by big hand surgeon to make me scroll more
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This would bother me more if I hadn't switched to Linux full time 5y ago. Microsoft is gonna Microsoft I guess.
Every one of these Microsoft controversies since I ditched them has just validated my decision.
The only thing I actually like about windows. Damn.
While My go to is control panel if they fully committed to settings in win 8 I wouldn't give a fuck. I don't care where my settings live as long as it's all in 1 place
Pity I have shifted enough away from win thar I only need it for a single program and could no longer care
Let's be real...Microsoft finally depreciated Windows with Windows 11.
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