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[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

TL;DR - It's being ~~replaced~~ renamed to "Settings"

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

But not really. The Settings menu has never been as useful as Control Panel and there's still a ton of functionality that can only be accessed from the Control Panel. This and many other moves by MS recently are why Windows 10 is the last version of Windows I'll be using. With the work Valve has done to support SteamDeck I can finally go 100% Linux.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TLDR, the settings app does not fully incorporate all the minutia of the control panel and power users are naturally going to be upset about the change assuming they stick around that long.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Too many specialized companies still make Windows-only software, e.g. chip vendors.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago
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[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (11 children)

honestly I still cant figure out how to configure a network interface properly without using the old control panel.

[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Yeah the new interface has restrictions it doesn’t tell you about until you try to apply new settings.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

You literally can't.

There's a ton of stuff you can't do with the new garbage settings.

Let's not even mention that on an operating system called "Windows" you can only have one "window" of settings open. And opening new settings will just replace where you just where. Which is extremely rage inducing.

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[–] shaggy959500@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

RIP. It’s been coming for a while, and Control Panel will likely be on hospice for a few more years, but it will be a sad day when control panel is gone.

[–] RustyShackleford@literature.cafe 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Control Panel will likely be on hospice for a few more years

And I’ll keep visiting Control Panel in hospice. Bite me Microsoft.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

WTF why did I misread your comment as "Chris Parnell"

[–] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably because we were just watching Archer bro

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Gone in favor of a less useful interface. Fantastic!

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Gone in favor of ~~a less useful interface~~ Powershell commands. Fantastic!

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (16 children)

Great, now I'll have to ~~Google~~ Bing for a four-line command when before I could just dig through a few menus.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean, if there's still gonna be command line commands for all the features then there's no reason why a 3rd party couldn't make a gui app for them and recreate the control panels app

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Good point ... unless MS manages to cripple that capability somehow.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

they should call it, get this, control panel

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

...and after a decade accuse Linux community for copying their great innovations.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

It is Windows...

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

No. Don't worry, they moved the controls to the edge browser! Isn't that great 😃? 👍👍👍.

This will bring so many people to Linux and will force so many others to start their own OSes.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm NEVER moving away from Windows 7.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Is your computer networked? If so, that's a bad idea

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I hope your firewall is up to scratch.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Please for the love of god move off windows 7 to a secure OS like Linux or BSD

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I don't understand linux. I have a raspberry pi that I haven't used in 2 years because I did an update all, which caused the fan to stop working. Which in turn mezns I can't use the thing, for fear it overheats. But I spent 20 days all day every day, just trying to figure out how to turn the fan on.

If I can't turn the fan on, and reinstalled the fan countless times, pouring hundreds of hours into something so simple, I'm not going to understand the OS.

On the opposite end of that, no way in hell I'm upgrading to windows 10 or 11.

And I'm not rich enough for a mac.

So, Windows 7 forever!

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

Raspberry pi is not going to be representative of running something like Linux Mint on an x86 machine. Raspberry pi is a unique piece of hardware that not all OSes are going to test against. As the other poster said, there are things you can do to ease yourself into the transition. But I'm... Baffled by your lackadaisical attitude towards updates. Your browser not being updated since before covid makes me hope to god you're not downloading any media files or logging into any websites

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[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

In favor of what? I still have to use control panel because some things are seemingly unreachable by the "settings" menus.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Yeah. This sounds a lot like some PM type thinks they're gonna get rid of control panel, and they just don't know what all is actually in there.

And not to mention the custom control panel applets hanging around out there from who-knows-what vendors.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am pure linux for personal use and mac for work but:

Good. One of the biggest problems Windows has had for the past decade or so is having like three different versions of every menu and needing to figure out which one let you do what you want. Consolidate that shit

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

They already had that shit consolidated. It's called "Control Panel" and has been around for forty years.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

And for twenty or so years they have added features that aren't in there. Hence the problem.

So unless you have a time machine, the answer is to consolidate.

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[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can someone explain to me the difference from Control Panel to Settings? It seems like more of a name change and of course, the UI will be different, but won't it effectively be a hub to control your personal settings just like control panel?

[–] Skezlarr@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Currently the Settings app in windows doesn't have the same level of features as the control panel does. It's definitely got most features that normal users will need, but if you're a power user or a system admin, you'll quickly find yourself having to swap over to control panel to configure anything past the very basics for quite a few different parts of windows. This change will be fine if Microsoft achieve feature parity between settings and control panel, so that there's no lost functionality when they get rid of control panel.

I think most people are a bit upset at the idea of the control panel disappearing because they don't trust that Microsoft will end up reaching that feature parity, leaving people with less options to control their own devices effectively.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

That's okay because Windows will be gone entirely from my PC in a month.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

If I hadn't already migrated to Linux after the insider crapshow, this probably would have forced me off.

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[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I work on an application that went through multiple iterations of UIs. Each superseded the previous one and a new admin UI was built into them. The oldest one was using Flash.

Occasionally I still have to drill down through four layers of "open legacy UI here" to get to some obscure, long forgotten setting. Manipulating shit with half-working elements in a VM running a flash-capable browser. Day to day I just go back one iteration though, because the admin UI has everything I need there. Unlike the latest iteration.

Some day we play on killing off the flash UI version completely. We already have planned workarounds in place to manipulate those obscure settings through endpoint calls. Won't be missed. But I'd miss the second to last admin UI that has everything where I need greatly.

This is what ms is killing off now. A good UI in windows where you can find everything. And all it'd have taken to make it better is give it a robust search functionality. No one cares about going back and forth in convoluted loops between sleek UI pages. People that care to manage stuff in windows at depth will be forced into shallow shit.

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