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[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've switched from DuckDuckGo to Ghostery Private search. I've been happier with the results than DDG.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Nice thanks for this

[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm using SEARXNG. It's a search engine aggrigate and you can mix and match where you want your results to come from. It's like using Google from a decade ago.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. That seems a fairly heavy duty search and possibly more than most users would want to go about installing. But it's something to keep in mind if needed.

[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

There are hosted versions you can just use without installing at home.

https://searx.space/

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I remember discovering MetaCrawler in the 90s (before Google was even founded) and it quickly became the go-to search engine because its aggregate results were superior to any of the other options at the time. I don’t think its source mix was tunable, but that sounds like appropriate progress for 30 years.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Can someone explain why the fuck Google is pushing this so hard? Generative AI is not a general intelligence, and useless for concrete facts. Google has already demonstrated how shitty it is for information, and the people with the knowledge to work on the project have to know this.

So why the fuck are they all full steam ahead on something that will always be useless for them?

[–] rogue_scholar@eviltoast.org 0 points 3 months ago

Because the engineers aren't in charge anymore

[–] towerful@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

AI is hype.
They've recently signed a deal with Reddit for AI parsable data. Reddit reciprocated by allowing Google to be the only indexable search engine.
Google now thinks it can do the same to literally everyone else.
Googling is pretty damn mainstream.
Don't give Google your data, then don't be included in googles search results. It's like a flip of their previous trade with reddit, except it's not a trade. It's extortion.

Reddit never gave Google traffic. They gave them content and data.
And Google thinks it can withdraw traffic from other sites unless they get data in return.
Google is a monopoly.
Literally extortion

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Magic beans.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Their line goes up when they show they're investing in AI, and it goes down when it looks like they're falling behind or not investing enough in it.

TBH, a lot of times I find myself interacting with ChatGPT instead of searching. It's overhyped, but it's useful.

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's actually a good news. Maybe we're able to revert the internet to the times before the Eternal September happened

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This will never happen. We might get some of the issues more regulated, and people may move away from others, but you can't put the Furies back into the box. Things will change, but we will never have the early internet again.

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We can, closed communities with some effort to enter the group. I pretty much ditched most main stream social media and use what it used to be mailing lists and discord servers. It's not about technology. Internet and access used to be simply exclusive and we have to create exclusive channels to communicate about f.e. arts, history, technology or even occult where there is no "free riders" with no knowledge. That's what I mean and this may happen imo. Quality over quantity

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago

Lemmy was at some point this pre-September place. Since then, it changed quite a bit.

I think we'll always have to face either Eternal September or walls and restrictions everywhere, making it hard to join and discouraging many genuinely good folks.

Our best best is to influence the Internet culture at large, since there's no grand influx of people on the Internet overall anymore. Of course, we go against algorithmic rage machines, but this is a fight worth having. And which place if not Fediverse is a good place to start.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I read that as "you can't put the Furries back in the box" and it still worked

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

Please understand that this is the next 'SEO' shit.

It was going to be this from the very start.

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