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[–] Unlocalhost@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Start buying commercial displays. Cost more but will be about as close to a dumb tv. You will have to provide your own smart device for apps ...

[–] BritishJ@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or hear me out... Just don't give it an internet connection.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Some TVs listen for open networks and use those, so if there is one near you your TV could sneak out either way.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago

open the back of the TV, locate the arial on the board and scratch away the traces leading to it.

[–] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If it doesn't have the passphrase for wifi, how is it going to connect? I rarely see unsecured wifis around neighborhoods anymore. For copper/fiber, you're not going to hook it up to keep it disocnnected.

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[–] Unlocalhost@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Cheaper TV's sometimes won't function without one.

[–] HonorableScythe@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

This is what I did. Works fine for my needs. My older relatives hate it but they rarely come over.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Commercial displays are not tvs. Quite often the refresh rate is terrible and you cannot watch action movies on it, because it was designed to show static billboard ads.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Hospitality TV

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I am so genuinely surprised that there isnt a bigger movement to hack TVs to replace the OS's on them with non-invasive open software alternatives.

Especially with shit like this.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Because it’s not actually necessary; leave the TV isolated from the internet and use a set-top box (Apple TV, Shield, game console) as the media player.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

While I agree, I think this solution is some nonsense. I bought a "TV" and paid for all the hardware and software that went into it, but I essentially have to use it as a monitor with my own hardware to escape the enshittification.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I also agree, but I view it more as ‘I bought a TV, and that’s all I want it to be’.

I don’t care about the built in software features foisted on me because I wanted an OLED panel; simply because they are going to be abandoned within 1-2 years, are powered by some anaemic chipset that is already multiple generations behind what is already available in my TV stand; and will likely end up as an attack vector to my network some period down the road.

The article mentions that TV manufacturers make ~$5 a quarter from selling your data. So those ‘features’ aren’t even free, they come at the expense of your personal information, privacy and likely security as a result.

So to quote a famous Dave Chapelle skit: “fuck ‘em, that’s why!”

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

simply because they are going to be abandoned within 1-2 years, are powered by some anaemic chipset that is already multiple generations behind what is already available in my TV stand; and will likely end up as an attack vector to my network some period down the road.

You do realize all of that would probably cease being a problem if people were able to hack their TVs to install custom OS's.

all the spyware bullshit would also be gone with a custom OS.

Literally every one of your gripes would be addressed and fixed by being able to hack your TV

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Custom OS isn’t going to address the anaemic hardware, nor do I think relying on open-source custom ROMs for a niche item is the best way to ensure any hardware-level vulnerabilities are covered.

If you already have an Internet-connected device hooked up to your TV (eg. PlayStation); there is no need to connect another, especially when it provides an overall worse experience.

Shit, a basic HTPC is infinitely better - using a Linux-based distribution (which will have a lot more support vs. a niche TV ROM), and it’ll be supported well beyond what the hardware could handle.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Custom OS isn’t going to address the anaemic hardware, nor do I think relying on open-source custom ROMs for a niche item is the best way to ensure any hardware-level vulnerabilities are covered.

Not only would it give "anemic" hardware new life, I can point at how its already been done at another in home device. Routers. DDWRT/OpenWRT/Tomato do exactly that for old, otherwise useless routers.

Literally every single argument you make can make against it has been proven wrong, and has in other devices, be addressed with a custom OS/Firmware that is designed for purpose without all the bloat and other BS.

You can adamantly say "Nuh uh!" all you want, but it doesnt change the facts.

You can buy PS5s for every TV in your house if you want to, Not everyone has that money, luxury, or stubborn desire.

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My tv hasn't seen an ad since i plugged it in.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

You sure you pay the electric bill?

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

People let their TV's onto the internet? I thought we already had this discussion and nobody does this anymore.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

My TVs are pre-smart TV and only 1080p and I have yet to feel that I was missing anything important.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Nah, my TV is not Internet connected. My router is as blocking. My dns is as blocking. My web browser and phone browser are web blocking. I use the YouTube website on my phone. If someone bypasses all that and pushes adds I just back out of that site.

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I reset my Android TV to stock before the ads, block all updates, and just run Plex and Netflix when I choose.

Probably going to take it further in the future and just use a little android media stick and nuke the SmartTV is entirely because of how badly it lags.

Absolutely insane how badly AndroidTVs perform after a year or so of ownership. If I could revert the core software updates I would.

Also, wifi causes the entire TV to become a laggy unusable mess. Has to be plugged in over ethernet. Absolutely unbelievable.

[–] fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

Jokes on them, my TV can't connect to the internet anymore because of the the bloat added by Roku in automatic updates.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Pi-hole, nvidia shield, custom launcher = less ads for the whole family

[–] Peetipablo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Which custom launcher are you using?

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