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[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Great read. Great summation of the last 30+ years.

Longer than I wanted to keep reading, not dissatisfied that I kept reading.

[–] BroccoLemuria@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for your comment, it encouraged me to actually read the article and I completely agree. Long but worth the read

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

And your comment encouraged me to immediately read the entire thing haha

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And violating [an app's] terms of service puts you in jeopardy under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986, which is the law that Ronald Reagan signed in a panic after watching Wargames (seriously!).

I watched it two days ago, that's tragicomic.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I know, right? Like how the hell do you get worried from such a silly movie.. Unless he knew the us military defense systems were in fact that weak, against people and their telephones.

Nah, Reagan was just a wuss.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

also, just imagine the threat was that defense systems could be invaded by your average citizen.

Let's put resources to making them secure then, right? Nah, let's just make it illegal to guess passwords. That will surely prevent bad things from happening.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Of all the things that happen in the movie, the thought that someone will have hooked a top-secret defense computer up to a modem is the one that is the absolute most believable.

Like, it's entirely going to have happened at some point.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I kind of expect it to be required, SCADA has had plenty of ancestry. But you'd expect the NSA to have been consulted on how to prevent interaction with the general public..

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I love Star Wars EU mostly for correctly showing how societies work in such regards.

When something happens there (unconnected to ancient magic), it usually involves a few pretty mundane snafus, and even if descriptions used make tech people and engineers cringe, the general situation just makes sense.

TCW and Disney era, on the other hand - ugh.

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[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The nuclear codes for decades was 00000000. That's all you needed to launch nukes.

Our cyber security was atrocious

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

At least now it's 00000000!123

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Maybe it's my ADHD, but I actually feel much better (very light and easy) reading such things. Nukes with zero launch codes, laws being made after watching movies for teens, Soviet caliber differences intended to make Soviet ammunition just a bit too large to be usable by the potential enemy, BTR-1 being basically a transport so that infantry wouldn't die while traversing nuked land, thus with no real protection against anything, and so on.

I mean, nuking another country by mistake is better than not nuking it when necessarily, or so someone judged. But some other people wanted some protection against fools, so theoretically they had that.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The story goes that, after watching the film, Reagan asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff ”Could something like this really happen? Could someone break into our most sensitive computers?”, and, after looking into it for a week, the general came back with the reply “Mr. president, the problem is much worse than you think.”, which prompted Reagan into setting off a series of interagency memos and studies that led to the signing of classified national security decision directive NSDD-145, “National Policy on Telecommunications and Automated Information Systems Security.”.

So... yeah, things probably actually were that bad, or even worse (except for the AI bit, of course).

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Has there ever, once, been an infosec issue that doesn't result in an investigation and someone then going 'oh my god, this is worse than anyone could have imagined'?

Teaching rocks to do math was a terrible, terrible idea.

[–] austinfloyd@ttrpg.network 0 points 3 months ago

If it wasn't an infosec issue (because no math rocks), it would be an opsec or comsec issue. We're the weak link unfortunately.

[–] fart_pickle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Let me save you the time and summarize the blog post - internet got worse, big tech is bad and the author is just ranting how bad it is nowadays. Nothing new, no idea how to fix it, just complaining about the modern world.

I'm not saying the author is wrong. It's just I heard this many times before.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

The author of this post, Cory Doctorow, literally coined the term “enshittification” in a prior blog post. I think he of all people is allowed to continue talking about the topic as much as he wants.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Just ratted on yourself and dipped, huh?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The entire second half of the column is literally how to fix it.

[–] fart_pickle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think we have read a different blog post. There was something about Google's antitrust thingy and that all big tech should be regulated but no straight solution were given.

Again, I agree withe the thesis but honestly, anyone who's focused on privacy would tell you the same but in way fewer words.

BTW, similar issue was raised in The Age of Surveillance Capitalism. Pretty good read.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

You think Cory Doctorow isn't focused on privacy?

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

anyone who’s focused on privacy would tell you the same but in way fewer words.

Corey Doctorow literally wrote the books on privacy. He coined the term Enshitification. He's even been portrayed as a guest character in a couple of XKCD comics. Generally he's someone to listen to on anything security, privacy or tech policy related

No, fart_pickle knows all.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The article proposes restoring competition, regulation, interoperability and tech worker power as response; in case anyone was wondering.

[–] fart_pickle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And the solution for world hunger is to distribute food from rich countries into the poor countries. Here, I've fixed the famine issue. Do you get my point? It's easy to say what to do but when it comes to the details, all those preachers fail short in giving the real solution to the real problem. As I said before, this is just a rant about how bad modern world is.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago

These are problems that require legislative action to fix, which is why he is encouraging the nerds and hackers who will be most affected by tech policy and understand the tech the most to start meeting with their legislators to discuss tech policy as it comes up for votes

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

When software changes in a way the user dislikes there's often no choice but to put up with it or stop using it because it's proprietary. I think this could be fixed if people were to adopt the value of free software and began to ditch proprietary software.

[–] fart_pickle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing wrong with proprietary software as long as it's respects user's privacy and doesn't do crazy licensing stuff.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is very difficult to tell if a program is respecting user's privacy without the source code to verify what it's actually doing. When you can't see or change what it does then the developer is the one in control of the computing, and even a good intentioned dev will have to resist the temptation to gain at the user's expense.

[–] fart_pickle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

VSCode is open source and yet Microsoft still pushes telemetry crap into it.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago

One advantage of FOSS is that you can fork it! VSCodium (presumably, I never really checked) takes all of the crapware out of VSCode.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It starts small.

Use FOSS. If you have a few spare ducats, throw it the way of the developers who make the software you use.

Encourage the use of FOSS at your work. Be a gentle evangelist for FOSS when it is appropriate and useful.

Everyone doesn't have to use Arch and hand code their own kernels to win. All that has to happen is for Microsoft and Apple to realize that their current superiority is under siege and that if they do not comply with the desires of their users they will eventually be ousted.

Hopefully more people will start to use Linux. When there are more Linux users than Apple users that will be a good start, and with all of the enshittification Microsoft is adding to their flagship os, it has never been easier or more convenient to try a Linux.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone doesn’t have to use Arch and hand code their own kernels to win.

Why do people write as if using Arch were hard. It's just messy. Stuff breaks and it's considered normal.

LFS maybe.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just because it seems daunting, that's all. I've done the arch thing, it was fun, somewhat laborious though.

I vastly prefer Mint or Debian so far.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I'm using Linux and other Unix-like systems for 12 years, and at this point I suspect I'd be fine with something like Debian too, if the hardware is not too new.

Slackware was always the coziest of Linux, but its kind of stability causes security issues in the modern world. And if you think Arch is laborious, while it has package management with dependency resolution, AUR and so on, then Slackware is even more of that. And I'd need multilib for Wine, which takes some manual actions and version tracking.

Using Void now, it works, but I guess some change wouldn't be bad. If I need pkgsrc, it works on any distribution.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago

If you would like to show people a great and easy way to try out some free and open source software on windows, I highly recommend ruckzuck.

https://ruckzuck.tools

It's an all-in-one downloadable portable that lets you browse through a large variety of the various FOSS programs that are available for Windows, conveniently sorted into their general use purpose and then with a quick easy blurb explaining what the software does and allowing you to install it with a couple of clicks.

Further, if you already have some of this software installed, it will scan your system and if there is an update available it allows you to apply all of the updates with a single click.

It has become my go-to software for setting up new computers, and I cannot recommend it enough.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You didn't read it. Also why is it when someone takes time to address an issue like this, there is guarantee a post like this to dismiss it in favor of basically doing fuck all. Like the implication here is that you're trying to diminish the effort for what? What's the reason when you didn't even read it.

[–] Dankry@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you expect Lemmy users to actually read the articles before mashing out some inane criticism of the author or some cynical do-nothing nonsense, you’re setting yourself up to be very disappointed.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm waiting until someone invents antidisenshittificationism

[–] YooperJeff@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you just did. Good job, you get a cookie 🍪

[–] slumberlust@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is this a third party cookie?

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The last time Congress managed to pass a federal consumer privacy law was in 1988: The Video Privacy Protection Act. That’s a law that bans video-store clerks from telling newspapers what VHS cassettes you take home. In other words, it regulates three things that have effectively ceased to exist.

Corey Doctorow always hits so hard

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And even though it's being labeled as a "consumer privacy law" it was actually spurred by a politician getting upset that people might find out what he was renting. It was a self-serving law that had the side effect of also helping consumers.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't it because a couple of anti-porn politicians were outed as having renting porn tapes (yet another thing that doesn't really exist anymore)

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IIRC that was what happened.

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

The solution is to reject any monetization of anything online. Anti advertise. If a content creator has ads take a minute to talk about how the product is the worst. Maybe it started a fire from a friend of a friend basement and killed their whole family. Maybe it made someone you know infertile. If a marketing team acts like a celebrity to promote rampart, you do what we all did in the rampart ama no matter what it is. Reject anyone trying to monetize and capitalize on the internet until all the assholes that running ever other medium leaves.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The telephone jumped the shark a few years ago. Now no one expects using the phone for legit business. Now it's email.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

I ask everyone I give my number to to text me first so I can verify

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