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More info about it here: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/08/13/windows-11-start-menu-is-getting-a-new-layout-to-organize-your-apps/

I love how microsoft never learns their lessons.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago

I disagree. Microsoft is learning its lesson. It's just that the vast majority of people are teaching Microsoft that its actions are perfectly acceptable, or, at the very least, not totally unacceptable... so it continues.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh it's good they have the "Messages" and "Calls" buttons right there for easy access since so many people message or call my desktop PC.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

"The return of the Windows Phone"? 🤷‍♂️

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh for fucks sake, auto categorization is one of the thing I dreaded the most on iOS because it's almost always incorrect and it doesn't fit my usage at all. Hopefully it will be possible to disable this crap.

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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft can not stop fucking up. I have to wonder what the turnaround is like on their UI teams that every god damn version needs a complete rework.

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[–] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

With more room for ads, I hope?!

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i assume that's what the sidebar is for

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The sidebar looks like it's dedicated to phone access?

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[–] superterran@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (10 children)

I like the Phone Companion bar too. The folder grid is reminiscent of Windows 8 and is a nod to iOS… I guess haters gonna hate, but this seems like a nice improvement.

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[–] Thatuserguy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (18 children)

Oh cool, good to see the power button is still on the other side of the fucking menu. You know, the thing that I'm clicking on 90% of the time I'm opening the Start Menu? Why have that easily reachable like in past versions of Windows? Silly me I guess.

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (14 children)

This isn't the first time Microsoft has done this, I remember this being a huge gripe for me with Windows 8/8.1

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[–] vahtos@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago

Then you wouldn't notice all the fun and exciting recommendations they have for you! /s

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

genuine question, why do you click that button? Why not use the physical button on the device?

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Software shutdown button presser chiming in.

There's two reasons I tend to use the software button. I know for a fact that clicking "Shut Down" will actually shut down the computer. If I press the hardware button, the computer usually is configured by default to sleep. Yes, I could change this default behaviour on all the devices I use, but then there's the second reason:

From a psychological perspective, I tend to associate the hardware button as a "only use if system is locked up" button.

[–] naticus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep, if you're in charge of managing hundreds of computers, you don't want to guess at what it'll do. We have our defaults but also have people who make exceptions depending on their own work needs. Tbh, I rarely use that button anyhow though, I right click on the start menu to get that menu instead and use shutdown, restart, or log out.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Further reason, the physical button isn't always in a location that's convenient to push. Sure it's usually accessible, but sometimes it's under a desk or behind a monitor or some other awkward location. Mouse and keyboard by their nature are always located in a conveniently accessible location.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

I'm sitting at my desk and my computer tower is out of reach unless I get up and reach over. Gotta showcase that RGB

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Power options: sleep after 5 minutes

Power button action: shutdown

You're welcome

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

ha, oh look another revision no one asked for.

i had to use this recently, and its all kinds of useless now. the 'search' didnt find my installed app, the 'all apps' list is a click or two in, and then absurdly inefficiently styled.. the win98 start menu was easier for me to navigate.

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[–] RangerJosie@sffa.community 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can write reskin Windows 11 to look like 95/98?

Cuz that would be cool. Just hide all the bullshit. Have a functional desktop again.

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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

oh yeah, now one can accidentally close the Start menu by clicking in the gap between the panels.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So is Nadella redesigning all this stuff? Because it certainly doesn’t look like someone who is familiar with UI is doing it. Reminds me of when the CEO of Yahoo decided she could create a new logo in Corel Draw one night.

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