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Israeli forces shoot US citizen in occupied West Bank (www.middleeasteye.net)

submitted 3 months ago by Linkerbaan@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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Israeli forces shot and injured an American citizen during a demonstration on Friday that was being held in Beita, a Palestinian village near the occupied West Bank town of Nablus, several Palestinian rights organisations have told Middle East Eye.

Amado Sison* was hit by a bullet that shot through the back of his right thigh and left a large exit wound. The bullet, however, missed all of Sison's major arteries and his bones but he has soft tissue damage from the attack, according to Vivi Chen, an activist with Defend Palestine:Faz3a. Chen was also the victim of an attack by Israeli settlers last month.

Sison was carried more than 500 metres as Israeli forces continued to attack the Palestinians gathered at the site of the demonstration.

After being shot, activists say that Sison's ambulance was forced to stop at several Israeli checkpoints, leading to a delay in his medical treatment. Eventually, he underwent a successful surgery and was seen smiling in his hospital room.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 155 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit that's a long way to travel to get shot with your own tax dollars

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Should have gone to school instead.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Privately-funded bullets in publicly-funded schools? Now that's what I call capitalism!

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's what they do. Remember a few years ago when they assassinated that us journalist?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago

I mean in the 60s they diliberately attacked a US Naval vessel killing almost 40 crew and I during 170 more. And the US just rolled over and did nothing about it other than help the Israelis cover it up.

[–] rockkicker@kbin.run 49 points 3 months ago (5 children)

good thing they didn't actually kill him or there might be consequences

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 111 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Shireen Abu Akleh, a US citizen and veteran Palestinian journalist, was killed by Israeli snipers during a military raid on the city of Jenin in the West Bank.

Nope. That doesn't matter.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Upon her death on May 11, 2022, Israel denied responsibility and blamed Palestinian militants. However, it gradually changed its narrative until admitted she was likely "accidentally" killed by Israeli fire, but refused to undertake a criminal investigation.

The classic "Hamas did it, oh wait you have evidence, actually it was us, lol right".

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 3 months ago

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it. <- You are here
And if I did, you deserved it.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So close to crossing the one line our government claims not to tolerate. Glad he lived, but shitty that we will continue to obstruct all attempts at justice by the international community.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just so we are clear, that's not a line. US Citizens have been killed by the IDF.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So we're even more fucked than I realized.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"As long as they looked like they might be Palestinian children from a distance, their deaths are fully justified."

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

Well, I'm sure their families condemn hamas now.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

No, the one line would be if the IDF attacks US Soil or soldiers.

That's NATO territory but whether the US NATO ambassador would have the stones to actually declare it an attack and activate article 4, that's another story.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 9 points 3 months ago

Cute

[–] BlackLaZoR@kbin.run 7 points 3 months ago

Nah, it's an honor to be killed by the Chosen People

[+] gedaliyah@lemmy.world -26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Any news yet on the 5 Americans being held by Hamas in Gaza?

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Any word on the 200,000 civilians killed by Israel in Gaza?

Any word on the 6 million excess deaths caused by the US occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan?

The hundreds of millions killed by capitalism?

[+] gedaliyah@lemmy.world -25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Those are grossly fabricated numbers. The best estimates are between 35-40 thousand, which is tragic enough. There is no need to inflate that by an order of magnitude. There is no reliable information on how many of those were Hamas fighters. Israel claims that it is "half" for those killed, so that is almost certainly the upper bound.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The Lancet is a peer reviewed medical journal not an IDF propaganda outlet. If israel believes the true count is lower they should let journalists and UN workers in to confirm it.

40K is the amount of people confirmed killed. Counting has also stalled a lot after israel targeted health workers responsible for the counting.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Lancet reports as of June:

37 396 people had been killed in the Gaza Strip since the attack by Hamas.... These data are supported by independent analyses, comparing changes in the number of deaths of UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) staff with those reported by the Ministry, which found claims of data fabrication implausible.

Based on past conflicts, they estimate that the "indirect deaths" could ultimately end up being "up to 186 000." 4

[–] Sami@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's what happens when you use starvation and disease as weapons of war and cut off all access to the outside world for independent verification; you end up with estimates of deaths resulting from the conditions inflicted.

They just killed at least 100 people by bombing a school since you commented this. Why are you so eager to minimize the genocide?

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why are you so eager to distort facts? I'm quoting from an international academic report led by a Palestinian researcher. You should consider why it upsets you that their conclusions are not gruesome enough for you.

[–] Sami@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The quotes don't support your claim of 35-40k being the realistic upper estimates. Your intellectual dishonesty and moral inconsistency is what upsets me.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

The study specifically says that the reported death toll of 37k is credible, and has been accepted as such by international bodies. That is the number of people who have died in Gaza, according to our best knowledge. We have no reason to believe that the number is significantly different, or as the study puts it, "claims of data fabrication [are] implausible."

Last I checked, 37 is between 35 and 40.

The study projects that the indirect death toll could eventually total much more, which would be just as tragic. This is why it is so important to release the hostages, end the conflict, and begin rebuilding the infrastructure of Gaza as soon as possible.

I only mentioned the upper bound of "half" of the deaths being combatants because there does not seem to be much agreement about how many of those killed were combatants vs civilians. In other words, at least half of those killed are civilians, likely far more. I'm not sure I can be more clear, but let me know if I can explain any of these facts further.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Turns out when israel starves and poisons Palestinains in a concentration camp they die.

[–] Sami@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 months ago

The official number was at 30k only 2 months in and that was only the names confirmed by a medical system already at the brink. Do you genuinely believe it only rose by 5-10k in subsequent 8 months of unrelenting assault? US doctors said that they have compelling reason to believe the death toll is 90k+ based on their time treating the wounded there. Another estimate is at 180k published in a medical journal as previously mentioned. Hamas were estimated to number around 30k before the conflict began (About 1k were killed inside Israel after Oct 7 and were not counted in the death toll) and they are still capable of fighting in most areas of Gaza according to recent reports.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago

Probably died from IDF terror bombings.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Netanyahu still doesn't want to do a hostage swap.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 3 months ago

And the US will make up some excuse to defend them

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your ANTISEMITIC if you DON'T like Shooting American Citizens!

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

He's lucky they didn't rape him with a stick.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

All citizens are equal but some are more equal than others

[–] snek@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

At this point we could just use a randomizer for Israel and it would still fit today's news

[–] febra@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Out with these shitty settlers out of the West Bank.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

People in this thread acting like Israel getting leeway on actions is a US thing. In fact, “western nations” require regional destabilization in the Middle East. Look at what happens in Latin American countries or African ones. Regional destabilization in the ME is not a unique thing, and Israel is just serving its purpose at the expense of keeping its people safe. None of this stops till leaders, countries etc decide the whole regional destabilization philosophy is an old world relic which doesn’t serve the future.