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~~https://www.neowin.net/news/ublock-origin-developer-recommends-switching-to-ublock-lite-as-chrome-flags-the-extension/~~

EDIT: Apologies. Updated with a link to what gorhill REALLY said:

Manifest v2 uBO will not be automatically replaced by Manifest v3 uBOL[ight]. uBOL is too different from uBO for it to silently replace uBO -- you will have to explicitly make a choice as to which extension should replace uBO according to your own prerogatives.

Ultimately whether uBOL is an acceptable alternative to uBO is up to you, it's not a choice that will be made for you.

Will development of uBO continue? Yes, there are other browsers which are not deprecating Manifest v2, e.g. Firefox.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

They should recommend switching to Firefox instead. It's clear that Google cannot be allowed to have a monopoly on browsers.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Even better is FF mobile (on Android) supports full list of addons, including uBlock Origin.

The using the web without uBlock Origin is cancer.

[–] Miimikko@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Though not container tabs (yet)?

Unfortunately no.

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[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The title is misleading, or false.

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox

This document explains why uBO works best in Firefox.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The title is misleading, or false.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They should I've been using mull on mobile and Librewolf on Windows 10 since the first time Google announced these Anti Adblock intensions. Must be a few years now.

I did mess with Thorium a little when it claimed to be the fastest browser on earth but yeah apart from that I've been using hardened Firefox forks

[–] Dju@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Comment from gorhill (the developer of uBO and uBOL):

I didn't recommend to switch to uBO Lite, the article made that up. I merely pointed out Google Chrome currently presents uBO Lite as an alternative (along with 3 other content blockers), explained what uBO Lite is, and concluded that it may or may not be considered an acceptable alternative, it's for each person to decide.

https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1ejhpu5/comment/lgdmthd/

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"uBlock Origin developer slams NeoWin, backpedals on recommendation!" —NeoWin editors, probably.

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds about right for any news outlet. "Slams" is so overused, and usually nowhere near an accurate euphamism.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (10 children)

How did supposedly intellectual people ever conclude that we should use the word "slam" on the daily in headlines?

It's straight out of Idiocracy and I will never get used to it.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ragebait gets more clicks.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well yes, obviously. My question is more about how they pretend it's not just ragebait.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Intellectual? Shit, that doesn’t pay.

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I only use Firefox and have for the past few years. Yesterday I tried to schedule an appointment to get my oil changed at the dealer but was unable because the process on the site just flat-out breaks on Firefox. This is not a complaint about Firefox, but the fact that Chrome is so popular that some websites only work with Chrome. I don't have a Chromium-based browser installed (besides Edge, which I've never opened intentionally) and I despise being on the phone (which is why I was trying to schedule online in the first place), so I just didn't make the appointment. I'll go somewhere else to get my oil changed. Sorry for the rant but it was extremely frustrating.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

Chrome is so popular that some websites only work with Chrome.

It's the Internet Explorer problem all over again, but this time from an even more invasive company.

The more people choosing non-Chomium browsers, the better. It's the only way to preserve what little agency users still have on the mainstream web.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man, you never worked for a large corporation that that had internal web based apps that only work on Internet Explorer and refused to update it.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I worked somewhere like that back in the 2008-2010 time frame. Thankfully, there was a extension, I believe the name was "IETab", that would spawn a new tab in Trident (IE's browser engine). So you could set certain sites to launch in one of those tabs and everything else would use standard Firefox. None of the people I supported were any the wiser. They just thought everything worked in Firefox.

Granted it was only that seamless because Windows already had that rendering engine built in. There are some extensions that do something similar with Chrome, but because of more modern security standards and whatnot you have to install extension helper applications which is gross.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Not necessarily. The problem is often that chrome JavaScript implementation can be ever so slightly different from FFs. Or just that the web devs wrote fragile code that is barely working on chrome and doesn't work on other browsers, where they failed to test.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Worth keeping around at least

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Out of principle, I refuse to pretend I am not browsing with Firefox. 🦊❤️✊ Let website statistics show! And I will boycott sites that break due to not testing on multiple browsers!

[–] teft@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought like that until youtube started intentionally slowing firefox identifying clients. As soon as I changed my user-agent to match chrome's the speed was back to normal.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Lol I blocked all but essential JS on YouTube with NoScript and never faced any problems at all. Videos load just fine without extra penalties.

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[–] uzay@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago

What the uBlock dev actually said:

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/wiki/About-Google-Chrome's-%22This-extension-may-soon-no-longer-be-supported%22

Manifest v2 uBO will not be automatically replaced by Manifest v3 uBOL[ight]. uBOL is too different from uBO for it to silently replace uBO -- you will have to explicitly make a choice as to which extension should replace uBO according to your own prerogatives.

Ultimately whether uBOL is an acceptable alternative to uBO is up to you, it's not a choice that will be made for you.

Will development of uBO continue? Yes, there are other browsers which are not deprecating Manifest v2, e.g. Firefox.

[–] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The 'block element' picker is the big one that can not be implemented in the lite version.

Also included block lists can't update unless the extension itself updates.

If you're not stuck on chrome due to workplace policy or something, now is the time to switch to Firefox

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago

Do you know if the lite version still blocks YouTube ads?

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[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago
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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I switched somewhere in the early 2000s, from Internet Explorer (Microsoft), and never looked back. (Using IE and now Edge as alternatives only, when I get the rare non-functional Firefox issue.) Never created an account either. I manually save and port my bookmarks!

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

I see librewolf in the edge

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago

Well I don't use Chrome, so....

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

memories of Internet Explorer doing the same thing intensifies

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[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

ive gotten almost my entire friend group using either the same fork as me or the original firefox, they all used chrome before. all because google was dumb enough to overstep some peoples boundaries.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (10 children)

I recommend switching to another browser like Firefox or Librewolf.

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[–] Butterpaderp@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (32 children)

I just got firefox yesterday, cause I noticed youtube started baking unskippable ads into their site.

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[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The best action ublock origions devs can take is drop support for chromium based browsers and retract ublock lite from the chrome webstore.

I was hopefull for something more than just a wiki page on github. adding a banner to chrome's add-on menu is way more powerful and far more reaching than what they did

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago

I already switched to Firefox after Netscape.

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