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If you've watched any Olympics coverage this week, you've likely been confronted with an ad for Google's Gemini AI called "Dear Sydney." In it, a proud father seeks help writing a letter on behalf of his daughter, who is an aspiring runner and superfan of world-record-holding hurdler Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone.

"I'm pretty good with words, but this has to be just right," the father intones before asking Gemini to "Help my daughter write a letter telling Sydney how inspiring she is..." Gemini dutifully responds with a draft letter in which the LLM tells the runner, on behalf of the daughter, that she wants to be "just like you."

I think the most offensive thing about the ad is what it implies about the kinds of human tasks Google sees AI replacing. Rather than using LLMs to automate tedious busywork or difficult research questions, "Dear Sydney" presents a world where Gemini can help us offload a heartwarming shared moment of connection with our children.

Inserting Gemini into a child's heartfelt request for parental help makes it seem like the parent in question is offloading their responsibilities to a computer in the coldest, most sterile way possible. More than that, it comes across as an attempt to avoid an opportunity to bond with a child over a shared interest in a creative way.

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Okay. I'm a transhumanist. I like AI, automation, and the abolishment of involuntary labor as well as obligatory adversity. Even I thought this ad was super fucking creepy. How the fuck do you justify sending your daughter an auto-generated letter? Now, not only do you not care enough to do it yourself, you're lying to her about it.

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

If i look around me, the people have stopped caring and been lying about it for years.

Either Google knows it's audience, or the ad was sent to the wrong crowd.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 3 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfEEAfjb8Ko

Now we need the machine to write a handwritten letter, and sign it. To complete the effect of genuine human connection

[–] ealoe@ani.social 0 points 3 months ago

I saw a similar ad in theaters this week, it started by asking Gemini to write a breakup letter and I thought my friend next to me was going to cry because she's going through a breakup but then right at the end it goes "...to my old phone, because the Pixel 9 is just so cool!"

Gemini is awesome, I use it all the time for applied algebra and coding but using it to replace human emotions is not awesome. Google can do better

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I said all these things to my partner when I saw the ad as well.

I've spent more time helping my kid write Steam reviews of the games they're playing than this Dad did on writing a letter to his daughter's hero.

Simple as. Don't be surprised when the kid puts you in a crappy home to afford more Gemini credit or whatever.

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

this has to be just right

And then he couldn't even bother to choose the words himself

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's not implying he can't be bothered, but that the machine can do a better job.

...which may be true, depending on just how bad he is at writing. Like, I was just watching this classic the other day. If this guy writes like some of those people, the machine may infact be better.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

But doesn’t it matter that the machine isn’t expressing anything? It’s regurgitating words that are a facsimile of emotion. That matters to me. Especially in the long term. Since shorthand and texting became a thing, kids’ writing became way, way worse according to TAs and teachers I know. Which, that was a byproduct of a change in writing styles, so while kinda pathetic, it’s somewhat understandable. But this is just shoving itself between us and our own feelings. Say google gets their wish, everything we write to each other that ever matters more than a simple surface level conversation is expressed via LLMs. Where will that leave us? What does that leave us? We’re closing ourselves off from the world with technology. And we’re cheering for a new tech that will allow us to retreat even further away from human experience. That’s goddamn depressing if you ask me. And to answer my own question, it leaves us work, consumption, and fucking nothin.

This tech isn’t here to free us. From work, from tedium. It’s here to relegate us only to the tedium.

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[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Okay, but what if I can't put my feelings into words? If even LLMs have a better grip on human emotion than me?

Edit: Well, then I wouldn't have a daughter in the first place; and I don't. Yay?

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Robot, experience this dramatic irony for me!

[–] 0laura@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

reminds me of that bear from inside job

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago

leans back and sips beer

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

"Dear Sydney" presents a world where Gemini can help us offload a heartwarming shared moment of connection with our children.

This is the problem I've had with the LLM announcements when they first came out. One of their favorite examples is writing a Thank You note.

The whole point of a Thank You note is that you didn't have to write it, but you took time out of your day anyways to find your own words to thank someone.

[–] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Companies like Google don't understand how advanced AI algorithms work. They can sort of represent things like emotions by encoding relationships between high level concepts and trying to relate things together using logic.

This usually just means they'll echo the emotions of whomever gave them input and amplify them to make some form of art, though.

People with power at Google are often very hateful people who will say hurtful things to each other, especially about concepts like money or death.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Ugh, who has time for that? I need all of my waking hours to be devoted to increasing work productivity and consuming products. Computers can feel my pesky feelings for me now.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Sincerity is a foreign concept to MBAs, VCs, and anyone who things they're on a business Grind Set. They view the world as a game and interpersonal relationships as a game mechanic.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Being a non native English speaker this is actually one of the better uses of LLMs for me. When I need to write in "fancier" English I ask LLMs and use it as an initial point (sometimes end up doing heavy modifications sometimes light). I mean this is one of the more logical uses of LLM, it is good at languages (unlike trying it to get it to solve math problems).

And I dont agree with the pov that just because you use LLM output to find a good starting point it stops being personal.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well, if you get anywhere with that fake facade, then it will catch up to you.

Better start reading nicely written English books while doing this...

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

Learning to use the tools available to you is not "fake" it's being smart. Anyone who would be like "oh you recognize your weak point and have found and used a tool effectively to minimize it...you're fired/get out of my life" is an asshole and an idiot.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Idk, I mean I think this is more honest and practical LLM advertising than what we've seen before

I like to say AI is good at what I'm bad at. I'm bad at writing emails, putting my emotions out there (unless I'm sleep deprived up to the point I'm past self consciousness), and advocating for my work. LLMs do what takes me hours in a few seconds, even running locally on my modest hardware.

AI will not replace workers without significant qualitative advancements... It can sure as hell smooth the edges in my own life

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

putting my emotions out there

You think AI is better than you at putting your emotions out there????

[–] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it can be, if you know how to use it

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (9 children)

It literally cannot since it has zero insight to your feelings. You are just choosing pretty words you think sound good.

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I get what they mean. It can help you articulate what you're feeling. It can be very hard to find the right words a lot of the time.

If you're using it as a template and then making it your own then what's the harm?

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

And Google turned off display of dislikes. Although it was for Apple's ad.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"Hey google, get me a dinner reservation at Dorsia"

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[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's change the like button on youtube videos into an AI assistant that writes a three page email of thanks to the creator whenever it is pressed.

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