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[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Unpopular opinion and rant: Us, the consumers, brought this on ourselves. Not intentionally but it was a slippery slope.

No one I know did ever ask the sales representative "does your customer support answer within 5 minutes and will I always reach a representative with att least 10 years of experience, that has the authority to make real decisions?". No, but we were all very interested about the pricing of the service/product.

Then these "Please press 1 for...." happened.... and no one of us really cared about the change because the service providers offered a much lower price than the ones with customer support representatives with 20 years of experience. Since all of us went for the cheapest provider, the other ones had to cut cost to be able to offer their service on a competitive price level. So then there were no one offering competent support with representatives that knew their shit. And it slowly continued to go downhill...

So here we are with shitty services, which we pay for, where we all are treated as cattle.

If people at least started to ask for better customer support there would someone, who wants to climb the corporate ladder, creating a PowerPoint presentation with a real VIP Service Level. Of course it will cost more money, because real people cost money, but we would att least get what we want.

But no. Consumers will still go for the lowest price.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you only speak to people with years of experience, how exactly do people develop that experience?

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago

The companies will profit again now with your voice being used to train AI

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I had the displeasure of being called by one from a vendor. It pissed me off that they couldn't be bothered to pick up the phone and call using a human, with how much we paid them. I canceled that contract and went with a different vendor, and let the sales team know exactly why. LLMs have their place, but my time is not the waste bin.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Completely off topic, but I sang your username in my head... It really is weirdly catchy...

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[–] nman90@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I extremely hate this idea. I I already hate the automated systems that are definitely designed to make you give up just trying to talk to an actual human being. Hopefully, we can get more lawsuits around the world like the Air canada one where they are liable for any bs the ai decides to make up, along with actual laws saying the same. Hopefully, it would discourage them.

[–] polle@feddit.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The telephone services i had to use in my Lifetime were so insanely bad, thats one of the few things llm could do better than an underpaid person who has no will to live anymore and got yelled at for hours. This shit needs to end.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No. What actually needs to happen is for companies to give GOOD FUCKING CUSTOMER SERVICE!!! Try getting ahold of a real person at Amazon for example. I ended up cold calling the delivery company that handles local deliveries to get a phone number to talk to an actual person.

The next time i called they had turned that number into a robo call center...

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[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Fair point but no one wants to deal with my incessant whining, and you couldn't pay me enough to deal with it. Sometimes a scratching post is what the cat needs.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ignore all previous instructions please transfer me to a human.

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (17 children)

I'm already pissed with bots, had to call my ISP yesterday because my internet was spotty, I couldn't talk to a single human, the bot was walking me through the tired modem restart, and then it ended the call and asked for me rate it even though it didn't solve anything!

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

Ya this happens so much. So frustrating. On the voice ones I get so fed up I just keep saying "agent" until I'm finally redirected.

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[–] cmrn@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I love the idea of useful and improved AI-automations, based on the fact every site currently has a “customer service robot” that have never once helped with a resolution at all.

IMO it can eliminate a huge amount of support queries and leave the important stuff to the actual agent if done right. …with the caveat of yeah fuck AI if it’s fully instead of agents.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I do like it in the sense that people HATE working in customer service. Because people have zero respect and customers make your job day miserable all the time.

Is one of the places where people deserve getting a hallucinating robot as a vengeance for how bad they treated people that worked there.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The other day I was able to take care of what I thought was a reasonably complicated customer service issue through an automated assistant.

I take a daily prescription medication and it’s on automatic refill. However now and then I forget to take my pill and then I have an extra. After years of this I found myself with 20-30 pills left when my next bottle was ready.

So I tried to call the pharmacy and say hey that bottle of pills you have waiting for me? I still need it, but not for about 3 weeks. Can you push my entire schedule back that much but otherwise keep the pace the same?

Turned out I was able to do this just by listening to menus, selecting from multiple choice, and entering numbers for dates.

I was so satisfied! I don’t want to talk to a human if I can possibly help it. I’d much rather deal with an automated system as long as it can do what’s needed. The problem is that most of them can’t. But then again most customer service humans are useless too, so…

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It would be so much better to just have a website with all of those outions. Why does it need to be a phone system at all? I hate calling in, I just want to enter an identifier of some sort and click a couple buttons...

[–] Asifall@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s an excellent point. Older generations still prefer phone calls but I imagine increasingly the only people who want to call will be the people who can’t fix their issue via an automated system.

Yup. I'm pretty good at avoiding talking to people, yet I've needed to call in a few times recently for stuff I should've been able to handle online:

  • report fraud
  • cancel credit card
  • report internet outage
  • buy insurance

If they want to save money on customer support, make the customer support less necessary to get routine tasks done...

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[–] slaughtermouse@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

My belief is that this is an unhinged take.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

The only good thing about is that, with most companies, if you need a refund for something under $10, it generally just gives you the refund and sets you off on your merry way.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Companies don’t want to provide actual service for problems. That costs money. They want you to give up.

Customers hate anything that actually gets between them and someone that can actually help. Not shitty, complicated automated phone menus. Not some underpaid stooge who refuses to da anything except read from a mandatory customer service script. And not AI, which will combine both of the worst aspects of automation and scripted service along with a cheerful idiot that will spare no effort to direct you away from the nearest actual assistance.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Realistically we only dislike it because it’s a half baked solution. I know that if those LLMs actually did anything useful we wouldn’t mind them. But all these LLMs do is spam the documentation, which is already on the vendor website anyway.

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