Dutch volleyball player Steven van de Velde on Paris Olympics team 8 years after child rape conviction : worldnews

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I see no problem with it. The corrections facility worked. I am of the belief that criminals are the product of poor social conditioning, and that the correct behaviors can be reconditioned.

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You believe pedophilia is a product of poor social conditioning?

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

At the very least it should be classed as a mental illness and treated as such. Nobody chooses who or what they're attracted to, and those suffering deserve help, especially when they've not acted on it (the guy in the post also deserves help but also needs punishment for his actions on top of it)

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yes. Every human has an "id" or animalistic desire. Part of living in a society is giving up part of those desires so we can all thrive. People can change, it's part of what make us human.

[+] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How do you know the corrections facility worked? I feel like it would be easy to say the exact things you are supposed to say.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If a person does their time, they should be done with punishment. Whether or not the punishment fits the crime is another thing entirely.

[+] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but I dont think the facility actually changed anything about the person.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think

Based on what though?

[+] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Based on it being nearly impossible to change these sorts of things. If you want to have sex with a 12 year old, you cant just make that go away (without pills).

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think the point of corrections is to make them never do it again, regardless of their desire. I mean, I want to save the world from billionaires. And if I did it once and was “corrected,” that wouldn’t remove the desire, it would just prevent me from doing it again.

Neither of us know the corrective actions, the terms of release, or even the details of the crime. It’s not really fair to continue to punish them because some people want to do it.

That said, I sure wouldn’t trust him around kids, and I think that scenario should be covered in the terms of release.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why have a correction facility at all if you have no belief that it works? Corrections facility should focus on social reconditioning not punishment.

[–] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago

That would be good if it worked. We probably agree but I think it should just make them into people with a purpose and have a life worth living. I dont think we can change how they feel, but we can do like the military does and give them purpose and direction.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Still wouldn't choose him to represent my country....embarassing to be Dutch.

Atleast Dutch people know they can rape kids and be an Olympic hero within 8 years..

[–] Luminocta@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe don't say that? I mean he has been corrected and if I'm not mistaken it wasn't exactly rape either. She wanted him to do what he did. And age wasn't completely clear.

This is not right I agree, but it is a bit more nuanced and seeing everything in black or white is a problem you yourself should fix.

Also, before the gaslighting starts. I do not condone rape or pedophilia, it's not up for debate. I do believe in a righteous system. The Dutch are not America, so don't pretend they are.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

t wasn’t exactly rape either. She wanted him to do what he did. And age wasn’t completely clear.

What a fucking gross thing to say. A 21 year old traveled to another country to have sex with a 12 year old. No.

[–] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

he play so good tho

[+] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] Girru00@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bro you're gross. 21 year old travels to another country and has sex with a 12 year old. This was not a technicality.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

I understand why it’s important to call statutory rape rape

sounds like you don't actually.

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