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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

it's really smart to have non-mechanical mechanical parts for things like a door

[–] PlutoParty@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What is a non-mechanical mechanical part?

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[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You mean, non-electrical.. not non-mechanical.

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[–] KamikazeRusher@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was talking to a Tesla owner about this and they argued that if the window is electric then there’s no difference making the door electric. They couldn’t understand that the door itself can be operated independently of the rest of the vehicle.

Making windows electric causes a safety tradeoff. You get ease of operation while losing the ability to open the window in the event of an accident (where power cannot be supplied). However you can still unlock and open the door manually as an alternative escape option. This also applies in non-accident scenarios (dead battery).

Making doors electric is nothing more than a safety risk. From the inside you might have access to a manual release latch, but some doors require you to unscrew things first. Any emergency situation where you need to exit as soon as possible and the power is lost almost guarantees that you’ll be unable to safely escape.

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Nothing about it is hidden, obfuscated, or even in a weird spot. It's literally right on the fucking door handle. There's a lot of reasons to hate elon, and there's a lot of reasons to hate tesla. Let's stick to the legitimate ones instead of making shit up, it just weakens the arguments for the actual issues

[–] KamikazeRusher@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Ok. So that’s the Model 3.

How about the Model Y?

Ok. Not all Model Ys have rear manual releases. I’ll assume the best and believe that only certain countries have this design.

How about the Model X?

So it’s behind the speaker grille. Uncertain if you need a screwdriver, but I’ll assume not. However it is hidden away from sight.

How about the Model S?

Oh, it’s under the carpet.

So yeah, turns out, I’m not making shit up, and there is indeed empirical evidence for it.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

what happens when a car catches fire because the electrical system is on fire and you can't Open the door because it's electric

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Manual release or you die, just like that lady that drove hers into her pond.

[–] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There are manual releases on each door inside, but I'm surprised they don't have them outside as well.

Reading more about it, I find that many only have manual releases on the front doors until recently and they have a connection point you're meant to jump with power to unlock and open from the outside. I didn't think anyone would be okay waiting for a jump to get their baby out, but then these people waited for firemen to break their window, so...

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Hidden manual releases that still require you to push the door through the windows trim. FFS people have already died because of this shit. Why the hell hasn't there been a mandatory recall on all Teslas over this?

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[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

These cars all have manual backups.

The question is how easy is it to use?

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Lets ask the dead billionaire

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[–] MoistCircuits0698@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

This is why I bought an EV with mechanical doors.

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