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[โ€“] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

Hell yeah ๐Ÿ˜Ž

[โ€“] Seraph@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They let a bad apple spoil the bunch by not getting rid of the bad apple. Reaping what they sow.

[โ€“] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well, you see. Those in charge want that apple there. Because when push comes to shove that apple will also kill activists, protestors and political opponents without asking questions or refusing orders. He will keep fellow apples in check and keep them from speaking up as well. They like that apple.

[โ€“] Venator@lemmy.nz 0 points 5 months ago

They prefer apple cider.

[โ€“] Zehzin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It includes your dad, how many more times does he need to beat your mom for you to figure it out

[โ€“] jsomae@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

40% of cops!

But for this one, please don't actually assume it's your friend timmy's dad, folks.

[โ€“] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It doesn't, though.

The problem is the institution, not the nice people that think being a cop is a good way to make societies better.

There's shitty cops, and the command chain that does nothing about it. That's the problem.

Antagonising common peoples dads, and the people trying to be nice cops,and failing, is not the way.

We have to point at the right problem. And if you point at the corrupt chain of command nice cops will back you up.

[โ€“] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sir, this is the internet. There is no room for this kind of thinking. I'll kindly ask you to pick up your pitchfork and join the back on the line.

[โ€“] neo@lemy.lol 0 points 5 months ago

We can do it, we can create our own Internet, I mean Lemmy, without pitchforks and torches! At least until Lemmy gets relevant. Well, as "relevant" as reddit used to be.

[โ€“] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They're also seems to be a lot of issues with policy that they're expected to follow. And when they do unconstitutional stuff, they get defended for doing it.

[โ€“] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 5 months ago

That's, again, an institutional problem. Yes, down with those institutions!

[โ€“] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every "good cop" is one that looks the other way when the bad cops do bad cop things. Or they are actively in the process of being harassed out of the department for "making trouble".

Though it should also be said that the modem anti-cop movement comes from the correct understanding that their primary purpose is to protect private property interests, not your safety. Even the theoretical "nice" cop is spending their time, effort, and focus on store break-ins and broken windows and harassing homeless people that a business owner calls an "eyesore" or worse. But again, if they don't carry water for the rest of their gang members that "nice" cop is getting kicked out of the department.

[โ€“] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, I get it. There's better places to spend ones time than being a nice cop.

Either they comply of they're out. But... You know. People are pressured to pay for housing, and food, and health. Maybe they're paying for someone's cancer treatment in their family. And cop work pays well.

People don't have much of a choice. We're all fucked. But individuals are not the problem here. The system is. The chain of command is. Capitalism is.

Fuck the police, as the repression apparatus for the bonjoursie state. Care for the people.

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[โ€“] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"the problem is the institution, not the people actively participating in the institution in exchange for money and power" what

[โ€“] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If money wasn't needed. If people had access to dignified work to pay for housing, food and health, they would have a choice.

Cop work is always available, on a very low entry bar, paying generally better than equivalent positions elsewhere. And shitty people get to vent their violence unchecked.

Nice cops "just" have to sell their should a bit. Some people get desperate and are willing to pay the consciousness price.

In my opinion these positions shouldn't even be available, the whole chain of command should be replaced by people representing the oppressed classes, committed to ending oppression.

I'm not defending police, I just think the criticism has to focus on the institution problem, not at the individual problem. Individuals are insignificant in the grand scheme of things, systems are everything.

[โ€“] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Totally honest question: do you feel this way too about Russian soldiers in Ukraine, or IDF soldiers in Gaza?

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[โ€“] EherVielleicht@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Hi German here, we say fuck ICE a lot because it's a fast Train who always comes late. But to make a long story short, I am missing something here, what does ICE stand for?

[โ€“] spaghetti_hitchens@kbin.run 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the US. They're basically the ones who raid homes and businesses looking for undocumented workers

[โ€“] LordCrom@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And don't forget about separating parents from children, holding illegal immigrants in overcrowded cells made from chain link fences inside buildings.... They are America's version of the Show me your papers patrol.

[โ€“] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Blame the parents for not immigrating legally. ICE is there to protect our borders. Want open borders? You can donate your house first. Oh not your house? Then fuck off.

Millions live here legally. "It's hard!" is not an excuse.

[โ€“] zephr_c@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Remember, if you want to let other people move, it also automatically gives them the legal right to steal your house and leave you homeless. That's why I'm living under a bridge while a family from Mississippi has taken my house. Its okay though. They were born on the plot of dirt between Canada and Mexico, so really that means they're defending my freedom by stealing my house.

[โ€“] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They have to move somewhere right? So why not your house?

Oh right, you're fine with giving away other peoples things.

Just not yours.

[โ€“] zephr_c@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who said anything about giving things away? You just made that up. What, you think immigrants are stealing your jobs and also not paying rent? That's not how thing work in the real world. The only people getting your stuff are the prisons full of innocent people who just wanted a chance at a better life.

[โ€“] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Whoops turns out you're ignorant of reality - https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-nyc-migrants-credit-debit-cards-prepaid-240335300869

"The city is launching a pilot program that will provide migrants with prepaid debit cards to buy only food and baby supplies, "

But the Democrats are losing voters in record numbers, they had to do something to make the election rigging in 2025 look plausible. Solution: import millions of 'voters' and give them free shit.

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[โ€“] skulblaka@startrek.website 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Blame the fact that it's so difficult to immigrate legally yet an overwhelming number of businesses rely on cheap immigrant labor. This is a feature, not a bug, because they can pay the illegal immigrants less and abuse them without fear of reprisal because if the employer gets any attitude about it, they call ICE and have the worker deported and replaced with the next struggling desperate immigrant.

There is no illegal worker in the US that would rather be an illegal worker than a legal carded one. The system is stacked against them because it saves businesses money to do so.

[โ€“] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget to save some blame for the CIA destabilizing South American governments and terrible living conditions for a huge percentage of the population.

[โ€“] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

South American governments should get their shit together. But they can't and we all know why. Importing that here is like shitting in your pool then wondering why no one want to swim at your pool party.

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[โ€“] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I blame the idiots that think prosperity we enjoy here in the USA is some sort of unlimited resource and that we can just print money when we run out.

Go ahead, print more money. Hope you've already bought your wheelbarrow.

[โ€“] skulblaka@startrek.website 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because naturally no other country in the world enjoys a similar level of prosperity without creating an underclass that they abuse for their profit.

We don't need to print more money, we have more than enough money. We just need to recirculate the money we do have. There is plenty of money in the USA for most citizens to live a comfortable life without exploitation, but 80% of that money is buried in the pockets of corporations and 15% of the remaining 20% is buried in the pockets of billionaires.

[โ€“] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

naturally no other country in the world enjoys a similar level of prosperity without creating an underclass that they abuse for their profit.

There literally isn't. Whine about the percentages all you want. You still have a higher standard of living than literally anywhere else in the world.

Capitalism did that. It's not perfect but it's better than anything else.

[โ€“] skulblaka@startrek.website 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, so Finland, France, Germany, Norway, New Zealand, Japan, Australia, Korea, Spain, the Netherlands, and Italy all don't exist. Got it.

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[โ€“] lseif@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

in australia, we say f*** ice because its another word for crystal meth

[โ€“] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In lemmo we say fuck because why the fuck did you censor fuck?

[โ€“] lseif@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

because not everyone likes to swear. i know, shock horror!

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[โ€“] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement, border patrol. They're notorious for the abuse of immigrants(even legal ones) trying to cross over from Mexico.

[โ€“] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not gonna lie, I thought it was about Internal Combustion Engines at first.

[โ€“] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

You're not a dragon.

[โ€“] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

For real, fuck ICE. My fully booked evening train got cancelled after we had already boarded, the next two that day were fully booked as well, I had to find an airbnb with a toddler and travel the next day, and they replaced just half of the ticket price because I cOuLD HaVe tAKeN AnOtHer TrAiN

On the other hand their child merch is cute af

[โ€“] Venator@lemmy.nz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How would taking another train even help with the ticket price?

[โ€“] groet@infosec.pub 0 points 5 months ago

If your train is canceled, your ticket is automatically valid for all other trains going in the same direction (doesnt have to be the same route, as long as it will reasonably take you to your destination) for the whole day.

Depending on how mutch later the next connection arrives, you can get all/parts of your ticket price back.

[โ€“] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You found an airbnb with a toddler? Did they serve you drinks or something?

[โ€“] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Just to be clear, I brought the toddler, they didn't provide the toddler

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[โ€“] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck inter-city express (ICE)? Yeah i agree the Deutsche Bahn is horrible & unreliable. Also their trains are always late.

[โ€“] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While those trains are indeed always late, at least they don't pollute cities the way that ICE (Internal Combustion Engines) do!

[โ€“] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hey, at least internal combustion engines are useful for something

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[โ€“] dumbass@leminal.space 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Must be " post unfunny memes" day today.

[โ€“] bestagon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Be honest, post unfunny memes day is every day

[โ€“] norimee@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Why do memes always have to be funny?

[โ€“] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 0 points 5 months ago

What did the ICE tables do now?

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