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[–] Audacious@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Even if they gave them away for free, no one would take them for commercial use. Not sure who would be surprised at this 'news'

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they totally would. Do you think the fine folks at American airlines have moral compasses that are orders of magnitude greater than boeing's?

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I assume their customers would start looking for flights that use safer planes

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 0 points 5 months ago

They have been. The problem is twofold; Airbuses are limited in the U.S., and airlines have increased the rates on those tickets because I guess a working airplane is now considered a premium.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Despite the recent slow sales, Boeing still has a huge backlog of over 5,600 orders

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I’m sure the millionaire dipshits who cut corners and killed people are super worried.

laughs in golden parachute

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

GOOD. How are those profits looking now, you murderous fucks?

[–] dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

They'll just sack some more engineers to cut costs, and hire more sales & marketing.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

More sales people to handle all the sales they’re not getting?

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

An engineer makes engines and a sales persons makes sales, right?

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Unlike a lot of sectors though, Airbus knows what they're doing and is a high profile alternative, and unlike the US, hasn't yet completely internalized our sociopathic greed disease to our degree, despite the global economic pressure we inflict on other nations encouraging them to betray and cause harm to their own societies and citizens if it means an extra nickel of short term private profit.

Don't worry though, the UK has fallen to the greed disease, and our capitalists are bribing and coercing their way eastward, and they won't stop until they either are physically stopped by something like climate change, or make the world forget that Economies are lowly tools that are supposed to exist solely to benefit the people of the society they are a lowly tool for.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Economies are lowly tools that are supposed to exist solely to benefit the people of the society they are a lowly tool for.

What complete gutter trash talk. Economies serve the master of mankind.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If by mankind you mean about 30kish sociopath families on the backs of billions and to the detriment of the long term climate our only habitat, then sure.

And to be fair, those 30kish sociopath families would largely agree they're the only mankind that counts.

https://www.investopedia.com/new-class-of-global-elite-have-emerged-8357556#:~:text=%22Centi%2Dmillionaires%22%20are%20individuals,a%20wealth%20advisory%20firm%20said.

Sorry about my gutter trash mouth btw, I'll work on that.

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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

won’t stop until they […] are physically stopped by something like climate change

Ah I see you're an optimist.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I have just come to acceptance with who we are, and enjoy the accidental poetry of our reckless worship of greed/gluttony/growth/metastasis being our, accelerating going by the latest science still going on deaf ears, end.

I also enjoy all the very corporate culture like bargaining that's going on with cold, hard, unflinching physics. Oh we won't make our non-binding emissions goals and grid standards, so we'll just roll those back, the climate will understand!

We're tackling our own self-inflicted, reverse terraforming climate disaster with the stages of grief because we refuse to stop and change how we live to find homeostasis with this world, so this isn't going to end well, and just with like clean coal/corn ethanol/plant a tree offsets/planet scale carbon scrubbers and all the other private profit driven snake oil "solutions," we aren't going to science up a magic bullet to save us from the epically irresponsible actions of our epically irresponsible species.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

we aren’t going to science up a magic bullet to save us from the epically irresponsible actions of our epically irresponsible species.

In-fuckin-deed. All the talk about "carbon capture" schemes makes my skin crawl.

Well it's either that or delusional parasitosis that makes my skin crawl, but anyhow.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Of all the Dystopias, I think we're closest to Elysium at the moment.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, although without the cool space station and cyberpunk-ish tech. I doubt we'll get that far.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago

True, though I hope we'll see a few variations of Killdozer crop up before the end.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Also Boeing is buying back it's fuselage supplier that it originally spun of into it's own business (because it wasn't profitable for Boeing back then).

The problem now is that supplier also makes fuselages for Airbus. So Boeing is gonna be making them for Airbus...

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[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

they need to make a reality show out of what it looks like to be held accountable and go through the justice system, using some of these soulless pieces of shit as examples. showcase the turmoil of the disgraced family torn apart and offer no help. the public can laugh at their pain the same way they certainly laugh at the issues of the common people they neglect and oppress.

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[–] ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Summary:

  • Boeing sales tumbled in May, with only 4 new plane orders and no orders for the 737 Max for the second straight month
  • This compares unfavorably to Airbus, which reported net orders for 15 planes in May
  • Boeing also saw Aerolineas Argentinas cancel an order for a single Max jet
  • Boeing's stock fell 3% in afternoon trading
  • The poor sales results follow weak figures in April, when Boeing reported 7 sales with none for the Max
  • Boeing hopes the slow pace reflects a lull before the upcoming Farnborough Airshow, but the company is facing issues like the FAA capping 737 production and allegations of production shortcuts and falsified inspection records
  • Despite the recent slow sales, Boeing still has a huge backlog of over 5,600 orders
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Despite the recent slow sales, Boeing still has a huge backlog of over 5,600 orders

I wonder what those orders are? They could be mainly orders for extra bolts.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

for extra bolts.

Extra self sealing stem bolts probably

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would trust the Ferengi more than Boeing executives at this point.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

And so you should. Our products are of the highest quality.

[–] MrGG@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

100 gross of self sealing stem bolts!

[–] Flipper@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not sure if this is serious. Boeing and Airbus are booked with orders for the next several years. They both could not get a single new order and would have work to do for the next half decade.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if this is serious.

if you are really not sure whether this:

They could be mainly orders for extra bolts.

is serious, then i recommend to not attempt crossing a street without supervision 😜

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

its a valid question.

“Are they orders for whole planes, or for anything boeing might produce such as bolts?”

Does that simplify it for you? Careful crossing the streets

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

They are for whole planes. As these sales figures always are.

FYI same goes for car sales.

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[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Several years is an understatement. At current rates of production it will take at least 14 years to fulfill all orders.

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[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Boeing is the industry in the military-industrial-complex. Commercial jetliners are an ancillary product for them.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

No, their airlines are not an ancillary product. They are their main product. According to Boeing's earnings reports, the commercial aircraft segment of the company made up 56% of total revenue in 2018, 42% in 2019, 27% in 2020, 30% in 2021, 38% in 2022, and 43% in 2023. The rest of their revenue is split between the Defense, Space and Security segment, and the Global Services segment.

Prior to 2017, the vast majority of the earnings for the whole company came from the Commercial Airplanes segment. Since then, that segment has been operating at a loss. Since 2022, both Defense and Commercial Airplanes have been operating at a loss.

If you're curious you can look up Boeing's 10-k form. Page 56 has the revenue breakdowns.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Those are orders for the 737. Not parts, newly constructed aircraft. Airbus's similary sized A320 has a backlog of 7197 according to wikipedia.

[–] nick@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago

lol. lmao.

Get fucked Boeing.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

It’s good to see the free market actually working

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Won’t someone please buy our airborne death trap?

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The US government has entered the chat

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Boeing hitmen would like to know your location

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He’s booked through at least the rest of the year.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

In that case, are you looking for an exciting new career opportunity?

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The most surprising thing here to me is that someone was buying a 737 Max 3 months ago.

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[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

s/tumble/crater/

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

shit falling apart, again and again and again and...

"y u no buy our shit? :("

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No need to worry, following what the CEO of Boeing called quality escapes regarding doors falling off, Boeing is now just facing the following profit and customer escapes.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/boeing-alaska-airlines-door-plug-b2477577.html

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