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[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 56 points 11 months ago (4 children)

As a long-time Gentoo user the only packages where compile times (and RAM usage) really bother me are all the myriad of forks of that shitty Chrome browser engine (webkit-gtk, QtWebEngine, chromium,...) and LLVM and clang.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Chrome takes so much longer than the kernel somehow. There's also the occasional package that makes you build single-threaded because nobody has fixed some race condition in the build process.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

More importantly Chrome takes so much longer than Firefox even though they essentially do the same things (or 95% the same things if you are nitpicky).

[–] itsraining@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but Chromium is very easy to embed in applications. Mozilla has a history of creating and then abandoning embedding APIs every few years or so (and right now I think they have none).

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

It seems very hard to embed it anywhere considering everyone doing so forks the whole codebase. Besides, my point was about compile times, embedding APIs shouldn't take significantly longer to compile.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago

My beef tends to be with software out of FANGs. Big teams and huge codebase to match. Completely inpetetrable for the rest of us and, I suspect, far more code then there should be.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I once shredded an sdcard-as-home while trying to compile firefox. This is why i say the web is broken. Needs a fucking kernel++ to display webpages.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To be fair USB sticks and SD cards seem to fail when you stare at them a bit too intensely. I think it has been at least a decade since I bought a USB stick for OS installations that lasted for more than three installs (each a few months apart at least since the need does not arise that often).

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 10 months ago

Ok, i usually go for speedy ones, a bit more expensive, maybe they have better chips.

I once read, some higher quality USB sticks even have SSD style wear leveling. While cheap sticks have the worst quality flash (good q for SSD, medium for SD an 'barely usable' for sticks).

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Chromium with wayland and X support is by far the greatest offender that I have found.