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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I used to look like that from ages 15 to 30. I was eating 6000 calories a day to maintain my weight. I don't know about that dude (dude is gender neutral), but it is possible they are struggling to not lose weight. Unlikely, but possible.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Someone who eats 6000 calories a day cannot look like this. It is not scientifically possible. That energy has to go somewhere and unless you're sprinting continuously for hours on end it's just not happening.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yet I did. 135 pounds and 6’2” for 15 years. You are assuming that everyone absorbs nutrition equally or that people burn at the same rate. I was a human space heater and, because my blood pressure was too low to get a driver's license, I was walking up to 7 miles a day. But that exercise probably didn't make a dent in anything.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not here to say what your experiences are. I just have some numbers. The total daily energy expenditure of the average male of that weight and height aged 18-30 who does intense exercise daily is around 3300 calories a day and this is on the high range which means if one were to consume 6000 calories a day and use 3300, they would still have 2700 calories still in their body. A pound of fat is about 3500 calories therefore at that rate you would gain approximately 23 pounds a month. I'm not arguing. Just saying the numbers don't add up.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"average" is doing a lot of lifting there. And, again you are assuming normal absorption of calories. The numbers don't add up because you aren't considering all the variables. What's the calorie need differential between an ectomorph and an endomorph? What role does hormone and thyroid play?

Yes, you are arguing. You might be using math but you are saying I wasn't me.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

What's the calorie need differential between an ectomorph and an endomorph?

None. Somatotypes are a pseudoscience and have been completely debunked.

What role does hormone and thyroid play?

The difference between the “fastest” and “slowest” metabolism in healthy people of the same weight is at most 300kcal per day, which is significant, but couldn’t account for a missing ~3k surplus per day

There are however several conditions which cause the body to simply not to process food (malabsorption is the term to look up), which is what must have been happening to you.

It’s very common for people to misestimate their calories by massive amounts, which is why people are expressing doubts, but what you’re describing is a real thing that happens

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The variables don't matter because even if they were included, they wouldn't make up for the lost calories. Oh well. It's not important.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Saying variables don't matter is cheating at math and taking a very simplified view of metabolism of food intake. It was very important to me when I was counting every calorie and tried to lose any weight because 5 lb could send me to the hospital.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago

People have different metabolism rates, especially in younger ages.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You're either lying on the Internet (impossible!) or you had some serious disease that you failed to mention in your comment. Mitchell Hooper, weighing around 140 kg, was eating around 5500 kcal when he won worlds strongest man.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Seriously. No one's eating 6,000 calories a stay and looking like the dude in the post.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No illness. Just unlucky. Why would use use a world class body builder, literally the most exceptional human to ever exist as your point of comparison? That's like saying anyone could play Conan the Barbarian if they just toned up a little.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, you're missing the point. Point is that even 500kcal less than your claimed daily intake will put into a 100++kg body weight, even if you're an elite athlete.

Unless you eat like Askeladden, there is absolutely zero chance you were eating anywhere close to 6000kcal a day if you didn't have medical condition that tampered with your intake.

Don't spread misinformation, especially about a topic that is already so heavily mired with it.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Except I was and I did. It's not misinformation. It's experience. But thanks for trying to invalidate 15 years of my life with zero information other than a basic understanding of calories and not figuring in any other metabolic factors.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you did consistently eat 6000kcal and 70% of it went right through your system and into the toilet, but then you had a medical condition that you didn't treat. Maybe a small village of tapeworms in your stomach, but no healthy person eat nearly three times as much as a normal man and stay underweight.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I spent three years going to doctors and at the end of the day it was suggested that I eat red meat salt on my food and drink alcohol to keep my blood pressure up because there was nothing they could do for my metabolism.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you don't know how to count calories. Just say that.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except I did. If I got behind I would lose pounds.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You should be studied by scientists then.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Too late now. Besides, all the research is on losing weight, not gaining it.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

My brothers were swimmers and skinny and small (and really fast, won national titles) and that combination of young, male, and active does create a black hole of metabolism. I also had a friend who was 6'6" and 140lb but healthy too, poet not athlete. He ate, it's just hard to eat enough to fund that much height.

The model though, that's an aesthetic choice not an aspirational body type. Androgynous and otherworldly is what I think they are going for. It's not mainstream attractive, certainly.