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How did Lemmy World become the default instance? (mander.xyz)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Masimatutu@mander.xyz to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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World was already the biggest by far when I first started lurking back in July, and it's just getting more dominant. Before, there was quite some diversity in the distribution of generic communities, but nowadays the vast majority of posts that reach the top are from over there.

I really can't see any specific virtue that it has; uptime is not the best (or so I've heard), the moderation is quite lacking (which is demonstrated by the fact that Beehaw defederated them), they make some unpopular moderation choices (like blocking !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com), and overall the atmosphere is a lot less... nice than those of smaller instances.

I also feel like it goes against the idea of the Fediverse that one instance has control over most of the platform. Especially on Lemmy, where communities mean that building community within an instance makes so much more sense than elsewhere, and upvotes are federated near perfectly regardless the size of your instance, decentralisation makes a lot of sense. It really just doesn't make sense to me that Lemmy World is where people are going.

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[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Simply because people didn’t and still don’t understand how all of this works.

[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can't blame people for the (sometimes) limited brainset they receive.

If it's unclear to the majority, then it's Lemmy which should aim to simplify the process of joining/explaining it to the general population.

Federated software is awesome, but sadly the recruiting process is still too difficult for many.

If it's unclear which app to download / which instance to join, then that's where a lot of registrations are being missed out on.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

👋

[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

Heya Antik :D

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you think people are not understanding?

I wanted an account on a Lemmy instance, and Lemmy.world is one. Since then, I've been pleased with most of what the admins are doing with it.

And they haven't gotten bored and abandoned the instance like a lot of the smaller ones have gone.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

On the other hand, I see a few times a week some people saying that they only browse communities on their instance because they don't want to create accounts on every instance, and they cannot use their credentials on other instances.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 11 months ago

This might be the number one thing I see often.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's one of the reasons why we set the default to 'all' instead of 'local' on LW

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

Hello!

[–] InquisitiveApathy@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On top of the other comments, I'd also like to point out that it's a little unfair to blame a brand new fediverse user for not understanding how it works.

I know I certainly didn't understand how it worked with my first account, but you learn over time by using and interacting. You need to make an account first though to get to that point. Lemmy.world is a safe option for a new user who probably doesn't understand the specifics of the decision of where to make an account.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk -4 points 11 months ago

I agree but I’m not trying to “blame” anybody. Get this sensitive bullshit talk out of here. Lemmy’s to blame overall, but it’s complicated.

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

I think choosing a large popular instance to store your account info, posts and comment history makes sense. Also, not having great info about how your credentials are handled on all of these different instances makes people tend to congregate under the idea that more users means better outcome for any grievances. Seems safer. What am I missing?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I think lemmy gets glossed over a lot. Few actually understand it. Yesterday people were responding to some of my comments after I deleted them. I have no idea but I guess that means some instances don't federate deletes or something?