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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).
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There's no need for that, we're all on the same side, and the GNU tools may not be an os by themselves, but they are a crucial part of any Linux distribution.
Are we? I personally consider RMS a lunatic who's salty that no one considers his set of tools an operating system. Don't get me wrong, they did a lot of good, but every time they mention that GNU is an OS I cringe a little inside.
Well, a "set of tools" is not any more or less an operating system than a kernel by itself is, yet not only do Linux fans insist on their kernel being an OS, but that RMS's "set of tools" is somehow part of "Linux the operating system." If he's "salty" about anything it's probably his life's work being attributed to someone else who doesn't even share his philosophy, which I think is understandable.
If you want to be really pedantic, like me, you can note that the Linux-libre variant of Linux is an official GNU project, so you can say that there is an official GNU kernel.
Regardless, I would say the most important contribution of the GNU project is the GNU General Public License, moreso than any specific tool or "set of tools."
I think youre mixing up importance with being everything, gnu is insanely important and has had a lot of positive effects - but that doesn't make it my second wife any more than it makes it an OS. its a software foundation at the end of the day.
This even includes the linux-libre, its not all of gnu like all of gnu isn't an os, one could extend the same idea to the KDE foundation too
Arguably neither GNU utils or the Linux kernel are OSs since they don't operate anything on their own. They more accurately parts of system. I think distros are more accurately called OSs