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Edit: Oh wow! Did not expect so many responses. First let me say, thank you for taking the time to read and respond! To address the biggest response to use Firefox I actually have it on my phone it's just remembering to break the habit. This was more to show what an average user who just uses what they're used to experiences on mobile browsing.

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[–] stephenc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok kid.

Goes both ways, doesn't it? Except my stance makes more sense because there are actual, undeniable issues with mobile devices and thay are demonstrably inferior devices in every single way. The sooner we understand this, the sooner we can stop carrying around a tracking device that monitors every single thing that you do.

[–] spikespaz@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Actual, undeniable issues? Sure! However, and you may have heard this before, a tool is just a tool. Technology is neither good nor bad--it depends entirely upon how you use it.

Demonstrably inferior? This is simply and objectively untrue. They are not inferior in any ways whatsoever. How healthy they are, for the user, is not the only metric to consider. There is also the productivity side.

They make phone calls, they make texts, and then on top of the basics, you have access to much of mankind's collective knowledge catalogued at your fingertips. Whether or not that knowledge is actually correct is a judgment call. Whether or not you use your phone for video games, YouTube shorts, TikTok, and porn, is up to the individual user, and is indicative of the lifestyle that they choose to live. It has nothing to do with the tool that was put in their hands, and much more to do with the morality of the companies that serve the content that provides them gratification--and the ability of the individual to resist temptation.

As for tracking, if you are reasonably educated about the technology that you use on a daily basis, it is easy to circumvent the tracking and spying that happens. An example of this would be Calyx OS. Yes, you'll be putting in more maintenance, but do you do your own car repairs? Maybe it's time to advocate for ourselves and make an industry of privacy conscious smartphones.

Addendum: As for mobile UI, yes, it sucks, and companies keep hiring terrible developers that use the wrong tools for the job. That's what happens when you're mostly focused on your bottom line and don't want to pay for the skill that is actually required to make decent software.

[–] stephenc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it is easy to circumvent the tracking and spying that happens

The fact that using a cell phone for its intended purpose allows carriers (and by extension, the entities that make your phone) to precisely track wherever you are by cell triangulation -- no GPS, no geolocation, no app spying, nothing, all in hardware -- means that it's impossible unless you just keep your phone in a Faraday cage and never actually use it.

[–] spikespaz@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

You did get me there.

On the other hand, you can make identification difficult.

Use a root app that disables all network hardware while the device is locked, and randomize your MAC on public networks. Also use a carrier (if available) that purports to be ethical.

There are various issues with my statements: your SIM identifies you, there are ways to identify people across different networks even if their MAC is randomized, and even "ethical" carriers still use towers from other providers, which can of course triangulate your position.

That said though, if you take the proper precautions using a smart phone would be no worse than a flip phone.