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Here? Bicycles. Super weird how weird people are about bikes and bike lanes here. Spreading the joy of a non-commodified fun-as-fuck method of transportation often provokes some truly reactionary energy here.
Who doesn't like bicycles? I mean, cyclists are often very reckless, dangerous people on the road, and bike lanes are sometimes more of a safety hazard.
Bikers get a lot of hate because a lot of them act like pedestrians. (i.e. riding on sidewalks, crosswalks, not stopping at stop signs, not signalling turns or shoulder-checking) But then if you do all of that dumb law-abiding stuff like some kind of responsible citizen, people in cars honk at you, give you their right of way, or worse!
cyclists would not need to do those things if there was proper infrastructure and if car drivers weren't out to kill them.
making bikes come to a complete stop is less safe because of the acceleration curve of a bike, if the way is clear it's safer the cyclist and anyone else around for the cyclist to maintain speed
Regardless, the law states that a vehicle must stop at a stop sign. Bikes are considered vehicles, and thus must come to a complete stop.
the law doesn't determine what is safest, physics does.
the law also varies by jurisdiction and in some places having cyclists treat stop signs like yields rather than full stops is the law.
Really? I didn't know that! Where I'm from it's different. That's good to know, thank you! Have a lovely day, and stay safe out there.
found the truck driver who tries to kill every cyclist they see
I'm a cycling instructor. I teach people how to cycle safely and in accordance with laws.
Have a lovely day, thanks for your input. I'm happy someone was ready to discuss with me!
you really think someone would do that? just go on the internet and tell lies?
I don't follow, sorry.
you should try interacting with cars as a pedestrian or cyclist. There are people driving on the roads now that I wouldn't trust to safely ride in a pram let alone use of heavy machinery at high speed in a public area based on a test they did years ago. If car use was held to the same standard as safely using heavy machinery in an industrial environment a lot of people who drive now wouldn't be let near a car. It's like people think they have a god given right to operate heavy machinery despite having no ability (or inclination) to do so safely and doing it around children
also bikes don't actually have turn signals and when you use your arm to signal it means you have less control of the bike while you do it
That's why you have to practice signalling so that you can maintain control over the bike while signalling. It's tricky, though, especially for less experienced cyclists. Have a lovely day and thanks for the insight!
I ride on the sidewalk when I can because I do not want to be run over by some
in a truck with a 12" lift who's infuriated by having to see a bicycle
I can understand that. I know that the laws (and road conditions) differ from place to place. Where I'm from, sidewalk riding is restricted to younger people, and so as a cycling instructor, I cannot advise my students to ride on the sidewalk, as it would be dangerous to pedestrians.
Thanks for your perspective, though! I hope you have a lovely day and most importantly, stay safe out there!
"Who doesn't like bicycles"
Damn those entitled cyclists acting like they're entitled to use the road without getting run over.
As a cycling instructor, I've been honked at, verbally harassed, and flipped off more times than I can count. The reason I know the anti-bicycle talking points is because my job is to discourage people from becoming like that.
Sorry if it wasn't clear in my comment! Have a lovely day and thank you! Your response made me laugh.