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Honestly the lack of ad blockers in Vanadium pushes me towards Firefox even though the devs say that Firefox is far less secure. So many web sites are just hard to use on mobile without an ad blocker so I'm curious what the rest of you are doing.

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[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except for gecko mobile not having per-site process issolation (Fission) I get it though, its has good anti fingerprinting, isnt chromium, and has compatibility with Firefox addons (you can get around the mobile only requirement by importing a custom collection, which iirc requires Dev mode)

[–] Ward@lemmy.nz -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The amount of Firefox fanboys who will get mad at you for mentioning Android Firefox missing per-site process isolation. I've basically made the choice to not mention it anymore because I always get harassed whenever I do lol...

Firefox on desktop is awesome, Mobile should be avoided.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm willing to bet you get "harassed" for your smug attitude, not for mentioning that fact.

[–] Ward@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

not sure how I'm being smug (please point to my excessive pride in my achievements) but okay, "harassed" is deffo a overstatement but I'm just sick of people like this https://lemmy.nz/comment/1506835 while I'm trying to help people.

But aside that, people shouldn't be a asshole to someone just because they come off smug 🤷

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.fmhy.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a link to you trashing firefox mobile for not having site isolation by default and disregarding the person that corrected you

[–] Ward@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How did I disregard it? He literally provided a reference what countered his own point.

Like please, if you actually have a point to make. I'd love to know how he corrected me at all.

I think trashing is a overstatement, I'm providing references to my point (Also I LOVE firefox and use it on my desktop what i mentioned! It lacks basic security features on Android, that is not trashing on Firefox!) and I was deffo a bit hostile because he was obviously responding in bad faith.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

With that link I just see your comment and no replies (maybe my instance doesn't federate with theirs).

But look at just this thread: your other comment is you telling someone what they use is bad and providing no reasoning as to why.

Then when you get downvoted for contributing nothing of value, you whine about it and begrudgingly post the reasoning you should have shared from the beginning.

That's a shitty attitude that's going to net you downvotes and negative replies, and you shouldn't be surprised by it.

[–] Ward@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yes you must not be federated.

My other comment what you must be referring to is "most insecure android stack", doesn't have references I agree & it probably should (thats why i edited it to include them) but its also on people to do their own research and if someone is commenting that their stack is insecure, maybe that person could ask me why or do a little research themselves (instead of just downvoting. Or they could just downvote & ask a question too!).

Also I'm not saying down votes is "harassment" thats insane, people can down votes as much as they want. I'm just over people unwilling to see insecurities after I provide references (like in the comment you can't see responses to)

Shocker not every comment I make will be prefect & if people genuinely wanted to learn ask questions!

Also this whole idea that its a "negative attitude" is insane, I'm literally telling someone the software they use is insecure.

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fission is functional with no noticeable issues on Firefox mobile as of like ~ff115/116. it just has to be manually enabled in about:config.

[–] Ward@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its considered a highly experimental feature, so enabling it could result in unknown issues or even security issues.

Also Firefox still lacks isolatedProcess https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1565196

I'd imagine Firefox would enable Fission by default if it was actually ready.