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I'm talking specifically about obeying the speed limit, doing a full stop at stop signs, etc. After receiving a speeding ticket for doing 53 in a 50, As an experiment I went a full day obeying all traffic laws 100% and it caused so much road rage. For example, there is a 2 lane road near me with a speed limit of 50 (where I got the ticket), traffic usually moves at about 60/65. There was a huge line of cars behind me and nowhere to pull over. As soon as an opening came up on the shoulder I was about to pull over and one of the cars behind me blew past me on the on the right blaring their horn. Then another truck passed me at the next opportunity and brake checked me. Both of these cars proceeded to run a red light about 1/4 mile ahead of me endangering others. By far the worst part of driving on this 2 lane road was the 25 mph work zone which is completely ignored by everyone else. It effectively resulted in me doing 25 mph in a "60" which is very dangerous.

Having needed to spend the entire day pulling over at every opportunity to let people pass I inevitably picked up a drill bit and got a flat tire.

Even matters as simple as stopping completely at a stop sign for 1 second cause immediate anger and dangerous behavior from other drivers.

What on earth are we expected to do? All I want is to avoid speeding tickets and drive safely.

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[โ€“] Nemo@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If everyone followed the law, there would be no problem. The problem is that bad and unsafe driving is normalized in our society.

[โ€“] MJBrune@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel this places blame directly on the users of the road instead of the designers of the road. People just drive in ways they feel are safe. We could absolutely drive better as a society but realistically the countries with safe driving have designed the roads a lot better than we have. This is likely because America is so damn huge and we have very little federal regulation on what a road needs to be safe. So a road in the US could be gravel or worse, just two tire marks in the grass. A road also could be a 50 mile an hour street with intersections every block or two making them extremely unsafe and inefficient.

Our road design is trash and it's really the root cause.

[โ€“] silver@lemmy.brendan.ie 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One thing though is the speed that feels safe for a driver does not always line up for what is safe for other users of the road. Bigger cars make drivers feel safer at the expense of everyone else.

[โ€“] MJBrune@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Europe has a way of dealing with that too. Bigger cars aren't road legal. They also make roads more narrow. It's not a driving culture that truly separates Europe and NA. It's that the design of the roads in Europe provided a better driving culture. So the thing that defines the culture is the conditions in which you can communicate.

[โ€“] silver@lemmy.brendan.ie 2 points 1 year ago

Heh ye, it's always funny to see Americans (in large vehicles) get stuck on the smol and narrow roads in the west of Ireland.

It's not just the design but also the factany were laid down before cars were a thing so they tend to wind and twist.

[โ€“] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Everyone would follow the law if it was enforced consistently. The authorities know that, and enforce it inconsistently so that they can fine people at random. It's a money-making scheme.