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Israeli settlers in the West Bank, emboldened by Trump’s return and a far-right Israeli government, are pushing for formal sovereignty over the territory.

Settlement activity has surged to record levels under Prime Minister Netanyahu, with nearly 6,000 acres designated as state land in 2024 and dozens of new outposts established.

While settlers see this as fulfilling Biblical claims, Palestinians view it as erasing hopes for a future state.

Critics warn annexation could jeopardize regional stability and U.S.-brokered normalization efforts, such as those with Saudi Arabia.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Then I guess it would have been a better idea to vote for Harris to avoid all the stuff that will be new. You know, like the new concentration camps in the U.S.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Ok? I don't disagree, but that's not what this conversation is about. We are talking about Palestinian genocide and specifically the occupation of the West Bank. And either way, I haven't heard anyone on Lemmy say Trump isn't worse for the US.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

And either way, I haven't heard anyone on Lemmy say Trump isn't worse for the US.

Did you join the site on November 6? It was unavoidable for months, to the point where it was starting to ruin the site imo.

Of course most of them mysteriously disappeared the day after the election, leaving behind a handful of useful idiots that bought the lie, and to this day, are battling the cognitive dissonance they feel every time they see an article like this.

There was literally a "Muslims for Trump" movement near the end there, and their leader has immediately and publicly regretted her decision after seeing Trump's cabinet nominations.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've heard people say they were both bad, and they were both most appealing to the millionaire/billionaire class - and I would agree - but I really haven't seen any significant number of people that think they were both equally bad. Maybe one now and then, but certainly not enough that it has stuck in memory.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Then you haven't talked to too many people here. And no, this conversation was about those people since I was talking about those people and you replied to me. If you didn't want to talk about what I was talking about, you shouldn't have replied to me.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The topic is about the genocide happening in Palestine. You said:

The “a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide” people were literally saying before the election that Palestinian genocide cannot get worse because genocide is genocide.

So I guess this isn’t worse?

Also about Palestine.

I simply pointed out to you that this is nothing new and was happening under the Dems, and has been happening for decades, and then you decided to bring up "concentration camps in the U.S.".

The conversation was not about that.

Why are you shifting goal posts so much and being so antagonizing? Are you just embarrassed that you fell for propaganda and don't want to admit it? Or are you consciously trying to help spread propaganda and make people forget the Dems supported Genocide?

Either way you are certainly not helping the image that internet forum mods are insufferable people. I'm moving on from this conversation.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Are you just embarrassed that you fell for propaganda and don't want to admit it?

Holy shit... I just can't.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Democrats iftas have been paving the way for those concentration camps, but that's a deflection from the conversation. Harris and Biden was shit for Palestine and didn't deserve another chance to continue the path they were headed. Liberals refusing to hold their people accountable allowed this to happen.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You got your wish and it will be Trump instead of Harris. Weird that you don't seem happy about it.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

a mod encouraging slapfighting..?

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump wasnt my wish. Getting rid of Republicans and Democrats is my wish.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's a two party system. It was going to be either Harris or Trump. That's just a hard fact. You didn't want Harris. There was only one other outcome. So you got your wish.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And voters keep it a two-party system. And it'll never get better if people don't start holding their politicians accountable, which means that if they don't work for the benefit of the worldwide public they don't get reelected.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes they do. And because of that, the choices were Harris or Trump. There was no imaginary third option in 2024.

Again, you didn't want Harris, so you got your wish.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You are struggling so hard to understand it's not a specific person I didn't want, it's an ideology I don't want.

But if you wanted a replacement for right wing authoritarianism posing as progressive she would have been the perfect person for you.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Specific people become president, not ideologies. You don't vote for ideologies, you vote for people.

But if you wanted a replacement for right wing authoritarianism posing as progressive she would have been the perfect person for you.

Like I said, you got what you wanted and you're complaining about it.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't vote for ideologies

The VBNMW crowd says different

I'm not complaining, the job is only half done

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, I'm not part of whatever crowd you're talking about so I'm not sure why you're telling me that.

The reality in the world where we live is that there were only two people who had a chance of being president in January- Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

You clearly didn't want Harris. She lost. You got what you wanted.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Democrats and Republicans in general vote for whoever is on their ticket, regardless of their past, Harris and Trump are prime examples. So yes, people mostly vote on ideology, not

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Yet again-

The reality in the world where we live is that there were only two people who had a chance of being president in January- Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

You clearly didn’t want Harris. She lost. You got what you wanted.